I didn't mean to imply the Ultra subs were "merely above average at best" in my earlier post. That was more a reference to the OP's article and its list of products. But the latter part of my post was a direct reference to this article and, in particular, this statement:@Zing don't get me wrong, you're probably dead on about digital trends BUT if I had to buy a sub right now without auditioning I would buy the PB16U based on my experience with PB13U. The power and subtlety of that sub are pretty amazing. Now do I KNOW that translates to the new model without our beloved Tom V's involvement? Nope, which is why I would love to hear TSA's dual 15 head to head with it. Anyway I get the gist of what you're saying.