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Completing a Film Noir Collection

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I've mentioned previously that, among other "types" of movies, I collect Film Noir.

While my love for Film Noir dates back to my university days and my attendance at the university's film club screenings, my understanding and true appreciation of Film Noir was only solidified after I took a course on the subject some ten or so years later (as part of my plan to take the longest time possible to obtain a degree in film studies - a plan still in progress.)

Anyhow, one of the reference texts for that course was Silver and Ward's Film Noir: An Encyclopedic Reference to the American Style. Within its pages the authors lay out a well-crafted but relatively narrow (by some folks' standards) definition of what truly constitutes a Film Noir, and list the 266 movies that satisfy their definition. I won't go through that definition in detail, except to say that it has as boundaries date, stylistic elements, themes, and geography at its heart. In short its a type of film, set almost exclusively in the US, made between 1940 and 1959, that has a certain look, style, setting, and plot elements.

So, for example, pre-noir gangster films of the 30's don't make the list. Neither do neo-noir / post-noir (etc.) films like Blade Runner. (However I need to note that Silver and Ward do consider a small number of 30's films to be Film Noir. On that point I disagree - for reasons that I'd be happy to discuss.)

So with the exception of their inclusion of a few 30's titles, I agree with their definition of Film Noir and consider their list to be a definitive and complete accounting of "pure" or "classic" Film Noir titles.

With list in hand I set out on a decades-long quest to collect copies of all 266 titles.

At first it was VHS and laserdisc. Late-night television and PBS recordings. Then came DVDs. I shopped in countless video stores over the years. The internet then became an invaluable resource to track down titles.

This week I pulled out the list again, after putting it away for some time, and made a final push. I had 5 (out of 266) titles to go. I managed to obtain 3 via torrents and 1 very decent copy had just recently been posted on YouTube. And this morning I placed an order for a DVD copy of the last needed title - which should arrive in the mail next week.

What to do now?

Well I'd been saving a good chunk of the collection for future viewing, so I'll now slowly make my way through those titles that I've not yet watched. Last week it was the most-excellent The Mask of Dimitrios (1944) starring Sidney Greenstreet and Peter Lorre.

And there are many titles that I can watch multiple times and enjoy them more with each viewing, like The Big Sleep which I screened at Bats' last GTG.

Jeff
 
For those who are interested, here is the complete list:

1940
The Letter
Stranger on the Third Floor

1941
Among the Living
High Sierra
The Maltese Falcon
The Shanghai Gesture

1942
The Glass Key
I Wake Up Screaming
Johnny Eager
Street of Chance
This Gun for Hire

1943
Journey into Fear
Shadow of a Doubt

1944
Christmas Holiday
Double Indemnity
Laura
The Mask of Dimitrios
Murder, My Sweet
Phantom Lady
When Strangers Marry (Reissued as "Betrayed")

1945
Conflict
Cornered
Danger Signal
Detour
House on 92nd Street
Johnny Angel
Lady on a Train
Leave Her to Heaven
Mildred Pierce
Ministry of Fear
My Name is Julia Ross
Scarlet Street
Strange Illusion
Uncle Harry (Strange Affair of...)
The Woman in the Window

1946
The Big Sleep
Black Angel
The Blue Dahlia
The Chase
Crack-up
The Dark Corner
The Dark Mirror
Deadline at Dawn
Decoy
Fallen Angel
Fear
Gilda
The Killers
Night Editor
Nobody Lives Forever
Nocturne
Notorious
The Postman Always Rings Twice
So Dark the Night
Somewhere in the Night
The Strange Love of Martha Ivers
The Stranger
Suspense
Undercurrent

1947
Body and Soul
Born to Kill
The Brasher Doubloon
Brute Force
Calcutta
Crossfire
Dark Passage
Dead Reckoning
Desperate
Fall Guy
Fear in the Night
Framed
The Gangster
The Guilty
The High Wall
Johnny O'Clock
Kiss of Death
Lady in the Lake
The Locket
Nightmare Alley
Nora Prentiss
Out of the Past
Possessed
The Pretender
Railroaded
Ride the Pink Horse
They Won't Believe Me
The Unsuspected

1948
Behind Locked Doors
Berlin Express
The Big Clock
Call Northside 777
Canon City
Cry of the City
The Dark Past
A Double Life
Force of Evil
Hollow Triumph (AKA: The Scar)
I Walk Alone
I Wouldn't Be in Your Shoes
Key Largo
Kiss the Blood Off My Hands
The Lady from Shanghai
The Naked City
Night Has a Thousand Eyes
The Pitfall
Raw Deal
Road House
Sleep, My Love
Sorry, Wrong Number
The Street With No Name
They Live By Night
T-Men

1949
Abandoned
The Accused
Act of Violence
Beyond the Forest
Border Incident
The Bribe
Caught
Chicago Deadline
Criss Cross
The Crooked Way
Follow Me Quietly
He Walked By Night
House of Strangers
Knock on Any Door
Manhandled
Moonrise
The Reckless Moment
Scene of the Crime
The Set-Up
Thieves' Highway
Too Late for Tears
The Undercover Man
White Heat
The Window

1950
The Armored Car Robbery
The Asphalt Jungle
Between Midnight and Dawn
The Breaking Point
Caged
Convicted
The Damned Don't Cry
Dark City
Destination Murder
D.O.A.
Edge of Doom
The File on Thelma Jordan
Guilty Bystander
Gun Crazy
In a Lonely Place
Kiss Tomorrow Goodbye
A Lady Without Passport
Mystery Street
Night and the City
Panic in the Streets
Red Light
711 Ocean Drive
Shakedown
Side Street
The Sleeping City
Southside 1-1000
Sunset Boulevard
The Tattooed Stranger
Tension
Try and Get Me (AKA: The Sound of Fury)
Union Station
Where Danger Lives
Where the Sidewalk Ends
Woman on the Run

1951
Appointment With Danger
The Big Carnival (AKA: Ace in the Hole)
The Big Night
Cause for Alarm!
Cry Danger
Detective Story
The Enforcer
He Ran All The Way
His Kind of Woman
House on Telegraph Hill
I Was a Communist for the F.B.I.
The Killer That Stalked New York
M (remake of the Fritz Lang 1931)
The Man Who Cheated Himself
The Mob
The People Against O'Hara
The Prowler
The Racket
Roadblock
The Second Woman
Strangers on a Train
The Strip
The Thirteenth Letter
The Unknown Man

1952
Beware, My Lovely
The Captive City
Clash By Night
Kansas City Confidential
Loan Shark
Macao
The Narrow Margin
On Dangerous Ground
Scandal Sheet
The Sniper
Sudden Fear
Talk About a Stranger
The Thief
The Turning Point

1953
Angel Face
The Big Heat
The Blue Gardenia
The City That Never Sleeps
The Hitch-Hiker
I, the Jury
Niagara
99 River Street
Pickup on South Street
Vicki

1954
Crime Wave
Drive on a Crooked Road
Human Desire
The Long Wait
Loophole
The Other Woman
Private Hell 36
Pushover
Rogue Cop
Shield for Murder
Suddenly
World for Ransom

1955
The Big Combo
The Big Knife
The Brothers Rico
Hell's Island
House of Bamboo
I Died a Thousand Times
Killer's Kiss
Kiss Me Deadly
Mr. Arkadin (AKA: Confidential Report)
Murder is My Beat
New York Confidential
The Night Holds Terror

1956
Beyond a Reasonable Doubt
The Harder They Fall
The Killer is Loose
The Killing
Nightmare
Slightly Scarlet
Storm Fear
While the City Sleeps
The Wrong Man

1957
Baby Face Nelson
The Burglar
Crime of Passion
The Garment Jungle
Nightfall
The Night Runner
Plunder Road
Sweet Smell of Success
The Tattered Dress

1958
The Lineup
Party Girl
Touch of Evil

1959
The Beat Generation
The Crimson Kimono
Odds Against Tomorrow
 
Thanks Jeff, I have being a fan of film noir on my profile. The list was much longer than I had any idea it would be. Would Chinatown with Jack Nickelson be film noir in spirt/style? Minus being in color, and any other disqualifcations it has. FYI, I have several CD's that are from the film noir/suspense/thriller genre that has a jazz base to it like, Sax and Violence, Body Heat (which is a remake of Double Indemnity) and Film Noir, all with various artists.

I'll use your list as a reference next time I'm looking for that kind of film. How much have you watched via Turner Classic Movie's? Now you need to write your own list ranking the best of all those movies so I know which one's to watch and which to skip. :techie-reference:
 
Troy,

You're welcome.

While I didn't go into great detail as to why, I consider only those movies that I listed to be true Film Noir. There are at least as many from that time period that others would add to the list - but for me they don't contain all the necessary elements. (And I freely admit that there are many that I've never seen, so I have relied on Silver and Ward, and other text books, to come to that conclusion. There are a number of great text books that you could dig into, in particular Hirsch's the dark side of the screen.)

Anything outside of those years (and in particular any that came later than 1959) are not Film Noir - even though they may be made in the noir tradition and contain many, if not most, of the noir elements. Chinatown is a good example. It not being on the list, does not in any way diminish the fact that it is a great film.

As for recommendations / ratings... I find that, in general, Leonard Maltin and I agree pretty closely. I suggest that, if you don't own one already, that you get a used copy of his Movie Guide from 2005 or earlier. Only his older guides contain "classic" movie reviews / ratings. If he gives it a 3, 3.5, or 4 star rating then it's almost certainly well worth the watch. Having said that, I've watched many rated lower that were a treat as well.

TCM has an excellent collection of Film Noir and many are regularly in rotation.

Jeff
 
For those truly interested in this topic (of which I assume there are not that many!)...

I happened to peruse a copy of a new book on Film Noir at my local bookstore: A Comprehensive Encyclopedia of Film Noir: The Essential Reference Guide; John Grant, 2013. It sells (on sale) for something like $35. It has an excellent introduction on the topic and I pretty much see eye-to-eye with the author. However the book itself then continues to list and summarize some 3,500 movies! Obviously Grant is erring on the expansive side of the debate! (You really need to first read the Intro to understand that he's really not arguing that all 3,500 are Film Noir; rather that if not Noir, they at least relate to it, follow in the footsteps of it, etc.)

By the way, one thing that Grant has now convinced me of, is that the term itself has passed into common English usage and as such, I'll now simply refer to it as "film noir" - without caps and italics.

While googling the subject today, I happened upon this excellent piece that centres around Nino Frank's 1946 article that is credited with being the first to recognize (and put a name to) film noir. A very good read. http://rememberninofrank.org/chapters/nino-frank-and-the-fascination-of-noir.html

Jeff
 
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