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Roku Madness!!!

Haywood

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I just scored three refurbished Roku 2 XS boxes for $55/ea shipped. I've had one in my main system for several months and we use it all the time. These will go in the bedrooms. The Roku boxes are mainly used for streaming video from Vudu, Netflix, Amazon, HBO Go, Crunchroll and Drama Fever. They are also used for streaming local media from my PC. This includes some video content downloaded from torrents (mostly BBC stuff I can't get here yet), family photos, home videos and our entire music library. The question you may be asking is, "What do you use for local media streaming and how do you make it work with music?" The answer contains good news and bad news.

The good news is that the Plex Media Server is generally excellent and is free (so far). There is also a pretty good Plex client for Roku. It works absolutely great for video content. Music appears to have been a bit of an afterthought. The biggest challenge I had was that the Roku cannot play Windows Media Audio Lossless and the Media Server does not transcode music. I ended up importing my entire library into iTunes, which transcoded everything to M4a format. Judging by the file sizes, I'm guessing 256kbps. I still have my lossless library, which I use with my Squeezeboxes. The iTunes library is just a hell of a lot more convenient to use with my portable devices and with the Roku boxes. It took a LONG time to retag everything and I hate the way Apple sets up the physical folder structures.

Plex is designed to look at the physical file structure in the absence if ID3 tags and does not appear to read Apple's tagging scheme beyond artist, album and track. This drove me crazy until I realized that I could directly update the metadata in Plex itself. I didn't particularly want to go back through and do another huge retagging effort, so I was really pleased when I learned about the iTunes Channel in Plex. The iTunes Channel is a Plex Channel plugin that navigates your non-DRM iTunes library using the metadata in iTunes and it works pretty well. This actually made my music library useable while managing the metadata in iTunes.

I have a Squeezebox and a Squeezebox Boom, so why do this? I did this because I wanted to put music in the bedrooms and did not want to spend a few hundred bucks a pop on Squeezeboxes, which are now discontinued anyway. Roku boxes are cheap and Apple's lossy encoding is done at a high enough bit-rate that I'd be hard pressed to tell on my main system, let alone a secondary set-up. I would have preferred keeping the music lossless and I may have found away if I'd spent another twenty hours banging my head on the desk, but this works great and gives me a music library that I can load my portables from without doing any conversion.

Another advantage is that Plex has clients for Android, iOS and Windows Phone. These clients allow you to access your media from anywhere you have internet access, so I can stream my entire music library to my hotel room when I'm travelling via my iPad or my Nokia 920. Plex also allows you to share your media library with a friend. My best friend and I have our libraries shared, so we can both enjoy the combined content of our collections. Did I mention that I really like Plex, despite it being very much "music second?"
 
Are you aware that for NF streaming you will need a separate account and pay a separate fee for each Roku box? Unless things have changed since last year you can only have one box per NF account.

I ran into that when I wanted to put one in Mom's bedroom along with one in the LR before she moved.
 
I have two Rokus and two Apple TVs and get Netflix on all of them from the same account.
 
Towen7 said:
I have two Rokus and two Apple TVs and get Netflix on all of them from the same account.

It seems to depend on the type of account you have.

Can you use them simultaneously and/or watch different movies on different devices at the same time?

Also do you just have streaming or do you also rent discs. Supposedly that has a bearing on flexibility. If you have the two disc at a time rental you can stream simultaneously on two devices, three discs three devices.

If you are just paying the $7.99/month fee for streaming it is very limited.
 
Streaming only. I'm prett sure I've streamed to multiple boxes at the same time. I'll check when I get home tonight.
 
This from a year ago but interesting. Seems the "one account one stream at a time" rule has been around but wasn't really enforced.

Netflix to Begin Enforcing One Stream per Customer Rule

For the record, Netflix has long had a rule in their service agreement limiting customers to one stream at a time per account. That means you aren't allowed to stream two separate films or TV shows to two separate devices at the same time. Thing is... they just never bothered to enforce that rule. At worst, some customers engaging in this behavior received an occasional pop-up notification, but were still permitted to continue using multiple streams.
 
Scratch all that previous stuff. From the most recent NF Terms of Use agreement


Personal Computer Requirements and Device Limitations: To enjoy watching instantly via your personal computer, your equipment must satisfy certain system requirements. Click here to view the various system requirements. To see partners who offer Netflix ready devices you may use to access our service, click here. YOU MAY INSTANTLY WATCH ON UP TO SIX UNIQUE AUTHORIZED NETFLIX READY DEVICES. YOU WILL BE ALLOWED TO INSTANTLY WATCH SIMULTANEOUSLY ON TWO SUCH DEVICES AT ANY GIVEN TIME. For certain membership plans, you may instantly watch simultaneously on additional Netflix ready devices within your household. Go to “Your Account” page on the Netflix website to view the number of devices on which you may simultaneously view movies & TV shows that are associated with your plan. The number of devices and concurrent streams may change without notice to you. For certain limited membership plans in the United States, your available Netflix ready device may be limited to personal computers.

I got my original info from a CS rep over the phone so that explains my misinformation :happy-smileygiantred:
 
I tried Roku about 6 months ago for two weeks and I returned it. It wasn't for me.

I have two xbox 360's and a PS3 that I use for Netflix and Amazon Prime streaming but my main streaming device is an Acer Revo 3700 nettop with XBMC installed. In fact I have XBMC installed in all of my computers. Everything else (except Boxee) is junk compared to XBMC.
Install Navi-X repository within XBMC and watch any show and any movie that you want. :angelic-green:

I am surprised no one here mentions XBMC.
 
I haven't used XBMC because I just don't have much video on my PC.

I'm too anti-piracy to mess with Navi-X.
 
Yeah, XBMC is more for people with a lot of local content.
The UI is stunning and it's highly customizable.
 
mzpro5 said:
Are you aware that for NF streaming you will need a separate account and pay a separate fee for each Roku box? Unless things have changed since last year you can only have one box per NF account.

I ran into that when I wanted to put one in Mom's bedroom along with one in the LR before she moved.

That hasn't been true for awhile. You can add as many devices as you want, but one account will only support two concurrent streams.
 
The advantage of Roku is that the built-in clients for the major streaming services are excellent and offer the highest quality. I number of streaming sights down-convert all PC content to 480P. There is no such problem when using a Roku device. Roku is first and foremost about web-based content. The only thing that makes it useable for local media is the Plex app. It has excellent functionality for Netflix, Hulu Plus, Vudu, Amazon, HBO Go, Pandora and a variety of other (mostly subscription) services.

Anyone who wants to use Roku for local media streaming without the right media server is going to be disappointed. I went with Plex, because the server can run on a number of NAS devices as well as Windows, OSX and Linux. It has clients for PC, OSX, Linux, Android, iOS, Windows Phone and Roku, as well as a pretty decent web client. It works over the internet, so you can access your content on the road. It allows you to share your library or a portion thereof with other people of your choosing. It is really quite robust considering it is still free.
 
Haywood said:
mzpro5 said:
Are you aware that for NF streaming you will need a separate account and pay a separate fee for each Roku box? Unless things have changed since last year you can only have one box per NF account.

I ran into that when I wanted to put one in Mom's bedroom along with one in the LR before she moved.

That hasn't been true for awhile. You can add as many devices as you want, but one account will only support two concurrent streams.
Like I posted later I got my info from aCS rep over a year ago. Posted the quote from the NF User Agreement that supports the two concurrent stream idea. Which is neat because I have one sitting in the basement I can put in the BR.
 
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