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The Muppets are ruined for me...

Flint

Flint

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I grew up on the Muppets. They were funny, relatively innocent, and highly entertaining.

Now they are being marketed as pretend real people with stories in tabloids about breakups and sexual tension. The basic characters are now complex and sexual.... sexual.

Sorry, I don't like it.

To me the Muppets were for kids with entertainment worthy of adults - albeit innocent and light.

Frack!

I don't want to read that Miss Piggy has a Tinder account and Fozzy Bear hasn't done well with online dating because "bear" doesn't mean what he thinks it means.
 
last muppets movie ive seen was the one in the 90s I think.

I cant take myself to watch the newer versions, simply because of this fact.

kinda like having Big Bird punning himself.

Id rather remember my muppets the way I grew up with them.

(or the same way I love watching them in the California Disney adventure 'theater' show they have)
 
The original Muppet Show wasn't as kid friendly as you remember. There were plenty of risque jokes, they just went over your head. This is more getting back to how the Muppets used to be before everybody's recollection of them was nothing but Sesame Street and movies.

Remember, these are the same Muppets who joked about torture (the Muppephone), where Miss Piggy made penis jokes (in Muppet Treasure Island she greets Long John Silver by saying "Hello, Long... John."), and so on.

The Muppets have changed, but this is more a reversion to the "something for everybody" Muppets, not a "everything for the kids" Muppets. I am looking forward to the show.
 
Akula said:
The original Muppet Show wasn't as kid friendly as you remember. There were plenty of risque jokes, they just went over your head. This is more getting back to how the Muppets used to be before everybody's recollection of them was nothing but Sesame Street and movies.

Remember, these are the same Muppets who joked about torture (the Muppephone), where Miss Piggy made penis jokes (in Muppet Treasure Island she greets Long John Silver by saying "Hello, Long... John."), and so on.

The Muppets have changed, but this is more a reversion to the "something for everybody" Muppets, not a "everything for the kids" Muppets. I am looking forward to the show.
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I disagree with your analysis. There were some risqué jokes in the old show, I know. I have watched them as an adult and see them now, but Muppet Treasure Island was NOT what I'd call the old Muppets. The new Muppets appear to be caricatures of their old selves with very obvious problems for mid-teen kids watching - like Miss Piggy being on Tinder or the "bear" joke about hairy gay men. Sorry, this isn't the same.

Jim Henson always focused first on the children entertainment value.
 
I think flint was also referring to the muppets also being 'personalized', er... making them more or less integrated further into our society as a living breathing part of the whole, but with a certain level of borderline humanity allowed with it. no?
 
i was referring to Flints posting above...

Flint said:
I grew up on the Muppets. They were funny, relatively innocent, and highly entertaining.

...Now they are being marketed as pretend real people with stories in tabloids about breakups and sexual tension....
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Part of the Muppets' thing was that they were ALWAYS considered to be living real lives right alongside humans. Not living in a puppet world, but living in OUR world. They've always reflected what's going on in our world. In the 70s, when variety shows were a thing, that's what they did. Later on, they did a TV show (Muppets Tonight). Now, with reality TV being the thing, they're doing a Muppet reality show. Naturally, it's going to involve more of their personal "lives."
 
Flint said:
Akula said:
The original Muppet Show wasn't as kid friendly as you remember. There were plenty of risque jokes, they just went over your head. This is more getting back to how the Muppets used to be before everybody's recollection of them was nothing but Sesame Street and movies.

Remember, these are the same Muppets who joked about torture (the Muppephone), where Miss Piggy made penis jokes (in Muppet Treasure Island she greets Long John Silver by saying "Hello, Long... John."), and so on.

The Muppets have changed, but this is more a reversion to the "something for everybody" Muppets, not a "everything for the kids" Muppets. I am looking forward to the show.
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I disagree with your analysis. There were some risqué jokes in the old show, I know. I have watched them as an adult and see them now, but Muppet Treasure Island was NOT what I'd call the old Muppets. The new Muppets appear to be caricatures of their old selves with very obvious problems for mid-teen kids watching - like Miss Piggy being on Tinder or the "bear" joke about hairy gay men. Sorry, this isn't the same.

Jim Henson always focused first on the children entertainment value.
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You've missed a LOT of the Muppets. More than once, after a loud group discussion, Janice is heard discussing her attitudes towards nudity (in Great Muppet Caper she's saying how she'd walk naked down the beach with her mother). One of the very pilots for the original Muppet Show was called "Sex and Violence," parodying such things on TV... you wouldn't find that in a show that put kids' entertainment first. Piggy's hitting on Rudolf Nureyev was downright suggestive ("You have a beautiful mind... and your other parts ain't bad either!" and suggests they are both overdressed in the steam room as she begins singing the ever-rapey "Baby It's Cold Outside"). That's not even considering some of the violent sketches involving bunny murder or Roger Moore kicking Muppets in the face.

The Muppets have NEVER been all that squeaky clean in their humor... they just hide it well enough that there's enough humor all ages will catch in order to camouflage the more adult jokes so only the adults are likely to get them.
 
I thought this was coming on tonight. I guess the premier was last night?


Haven't seen it yet, but I just hope it's not too crude. I love crude humor, but I have Family Guy and shows like that for the crude stuff when I want it.
 
Yesfan70 said:
I thought this was coming on tonight. I guess the premier was last night?
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I got fooled by that too; last night Kermit and Piggy were "interviewed" on Jimmy Kimmel, and CNN's blurb on it this morning had me thinking at first the show was on last night.
It's tonight, and I'll be there. :handgestures-thumbup: :handgestures-fingerscrossed:
 
I liked it.

And thanks to this thread I had googled "bear" in advanced, otherwise that fozzy joke would've gone way over my head,

Oh... And was Fozzy's girlfriend the same actress who played the masseuse in the TV show that followed the muppets, fresh off the boat?

My guess is that muppets is a one season thing. Or maybe I'm wrong.
 
I liked it too, but it wasn't anything close to what I expected. A lot of The Office influence (a show I've only seen snippets of, so I may be off).
Kermit showed a LOT more facial expression, don't know if its a cloth advancement or Mr. Henson had arthritis. And the scene of Kermit/Piggy's breakup should go down in History as one of the greatest movie scenes ever; VERY well done! :eusa-clap: :eusa-clap: :eusa-clap:
Not at all what the Muppets were, but everything I could like at this time. Bravo! :text-bravo: :text-bravo: :text-bravo:
 
It is different from the old show, but I like it. I only got to watch the 2nd episode (where Fozzie steals Jay Leno's candy dish), but thought it was pretty funny.
 
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