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3DTV Boom Fails to Materialize

Batman

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I'm not surprised by that article for many reasons...this topic has been discussed from time to time. The main thing for me is it's more of a BIG screen experience, and 3D may find it's place in the market when more front projector manufacturers implement it coupled with technology that uses less expensive glasses. Beyond that I'm not convinced it will go mainstream anytime soon unless they really slash prices and get MUCH more content out there... :twocents-mytwocents:
 

Botch

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Batman said:
Beyond that I'm not convinced it will go mainstream anytime soon unless they... get MUCH more content out there... :twocents-mytwocents:
The near-fact that the number of 3D manufacturers, and the number of 3D movies, are almost equivalent (all the "exclusive" deals) wasn't the smartest marketing move of the past three years... :angry-tappingfoot:
 

Yesfan70

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I have to agree with the above posts. For myself, I don't see the use in 3D if the TV is going to be 50" or less in size.
 

yromj

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I agree w/ Bats, and though I realize that it's not a matter of size as much as it is perspective, front projection is where this is going to be a hit, if at all. Also, most people who have front projection systems have dedicated rooms and therefore are more prone to embrace this type of tech.

John
 

Yesfan70

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yromj said:
I agree w/ Bats, and though I realize that it's not a matter of size as much as it is perspective, front projection is where this is going to be a hit, if at all. Also, most people who have front projection systems have dedicated rooms and therefore are more prone to embrace this type of tech.

John


I think I see what your saying. For me, I would think if one has a 50" screen or smaller, they are going to have to be super close to the TV to get the effect right. One of the two biggest things I hated about Avatar in 3D was how I could see the outside of the screen, curtains, etc. in my peripheral vision. Because of that, I felt like I was standing at a distance from a window looking in at another world before me, instead of feeling like I was in that world. I blame a lot of that on where I was seated as opposed to the screen size. My seat was perfect for the audio, but too far away for a great 3D effect.
 

mzpro5

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Let's see

3D sets come out right after almost everyone in the world just bought a new flat screen
Extra glasses can cost over $50 - could make that 3D Superbowl party a bit expensive
Problems with "off center" viewing - watch the kids fight over who is going to get the "good seat"
Media - well if you want to watch Avatar or Kenny Chesney in Concert over and over guess there is plenty available
Potential to make some people physically sick

Just a gimmick until they come up with something that doesn't require glasses and has a wider "visual field".
 

Towen7

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I'm a fan of 3D but the reality is that it is not going to take-off as manufactures hope. The typical US consumer treats AV as a completely passive experience. All they want to do is turn it on and watch. They rarley watch a complete feature film from start to finish uninterrupted. Asking them to don glasses, or sit in a specific spot, or anything else will reduce adoption.

I'm positive that a relatively small number of enthusiast will embrace 3D but catering to enthusiasts is no way to garuntee mass market adoption. SACD anyone?
 

Flint

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It is a chicken and egg issue.

3D TV will not take off until there is content. Content is not affordable to produce until there is demand. Demand cannot exist until there is enough technology deployed to enjoy it. People will not buy technology until there is enough content to justify it. etc. etc. etc.

The same thing happened with Color TV and even stereo TV. Color was and easier transition because in those days there were about 4 to 9 stations in any market and the technology was backwards compatible. The demand on the network wasn't an issue because the FCC gave the broadcasters the spectrum they needed to go to color. The adoption by the hardware manufacturers was simple because there was one single north American standard. Stereo was similar, except for the number of channels.

With 3DTV, it isn't simple at all. The burden on the creation of content is very extensive and costly. The burden on the distribution networks is extremely intense. The standards are too broad. The technology too new. HDTV was an easier transition and it took 7 years and still isn't complete.


I am going to the NAB Show in Las Vegas tomorrow and intend to speak to those responsible for content and broadcasting the content. Hopefully I will know some juicy tid-bits about what the future may hold for this tech and report it here.
 

Yesfan70

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Towen7 said:
....I'm positive that a relatively small number of enthusiast will embrace 3D but catering to enthusiasts is no way to garuntee mass market adoption. SACD anyone?


You took the words right out of my mouth. I think 3D will be the videophiles' SACD/DVD-A.
 

Botch

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There may be a completely obvious reason why not, but I've always wondered...

If you have to wear special glasses anyway, why even bother with the TV? Isn't there some way to project into the eyes from the glasses themselves? That way you wouldn't even have to worry about the size of your TV; just design the glasses to cover nearly your entire field of view.
Sure, the glasses would be heavier (at first) but just a few years ago who would've guessed we could buy a 1TB drive for $79?
 

Deacon

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You guys are missing the real reason. You have to wear those stupid glasses!!! My step daughter just got back from Cali and had the pleasure of seeing a 3D TV while there. Her only comment was 'who would want to wear some stupid glasses every time they wanted to watch TV?'
 

Voodoo

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Deacon said:
You guys are missing the real reason. You have to wear those stupid glasses!!! My step daughter just got back from Cali and had the pleasure of seeing a 3D TV while there. Her only comment was 'who would want to wear some stupid glasses every time they wanted to watch TV?'

Your step-daughter is smart! That's my reasoning as well.

V
 

Razz

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Deacon said:
You guys are missing the real reason. You have to wear those stupid glasses!!! My step daughter just got back from Cali and had the pleasure of seeing a 3D TV while there. Her only comment was 'who would want to wear some stupid glasses every time they wanted to watch TV?'


YEP!!!!


And 3D is really just not that good.... come on now. Almost all the material I've seen is a few layers of 2D.... It's just a distraction at this point.
 

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^ Pretty much.

 

Yesfan70

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You guys do realize, you DON'T have to wear the glasses to see 2D video. The glasses are only needed for 3D content. 2D video should look just as good on a 3D TV, maybe even better. The glasses are one reason, but right now I think lack of 3D media and 3D channels is another (bigger) reason.

For me, I still want to see a game on ESPN 3D. Will it be the deal maker? Probably not, but it's still something I want to check out.
 

Batman

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I still think it's all about what is put into the presentation that makes a 3D clip look amazing. Ive seen some unbelievable clips and I've seen some that are simply terrible. But the good ones I've seen have me convinced that when put together the right way, 3D can be nothing short of stunning...But that's just my opinion based on the demos I've witnessed at the tradeshows. Also with that said, I don't have any personal stakes in the technology and really couldn't care less if it succeeds or fails.
 

MatthewB

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If History teaches us anything, unless the porn industry embraces 3D than nothing will take off.
 

Flint

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In Hong Kong the very first feature length 3D porn movie, "Sex and Zen", recently set box office records.
 
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