New Receiver

[Sailor]

Hi Everyone: my first post lol: i am in a hunt for a new receiver, i presently have a Denon 3805 and would like to upgrade before i retire from the workforce completely (which is in a not too distant future). i was looking at the AVR4311CI which is 3D ready with HDM! version 1.4a, i am not particularly crazy about 3D technology but will i have a choice in the matter say four to five years from now if this technology ever takes off? i was looking at the AVR4310 it is $900.00 less. in your honest opinion, if you were shopping for a new receiver; would you be looking at 3D technology? i was thinking when retired my buying power will be somewhat restricted, if I do go now with a 3D on a receiver and later on say six years down the road purchase a new TV (like wait and see) (with my luck HDMI version will be at 7.1 :angry-banghead: ) would appreciate your comments :text-thankyoublue:

 

[Towen7]

in your honest opinion, if you were shopping for a new receiver; would you be looking at 3D technology?

I think at this junction I'd be looking for receivers that have 3D pass through. I dont think we'll need a lot of processing in the receiver, the TVs of the future will do that for us. All we need for now is to know that the receiver can pass that 3D signal onto the TV for the heavy lifting.

 

[Zing]

six years down the road

That's an eternity in the tech world. :scared-yipes:

While I understand your dilemma, I would never buy a component today with the expectation to buy a companion component that far into the future.

And by the way...
:text-welcomeconfetti:

 

[Barney]

I have to agree with Zing. Six years (even 2 years) down the road is a LONG TIME. I bought my 1st CRT/RPTV HDTV ready (has only 1 DVI/HDCP input & no tuner) around 6 years ago & look at what is going on now.

 

[Towen7]

What is this DVI thing you're talking about?

 

[Sailor]

I have to agree with Zing. Six years (even 2 years) down the road is a LONG TIME. I bought my 1st CRT/RPTV HDTV ready (has only 1 DVI/HDCP input & no tuner) around 6 years ago & look at what is going on now.

thanks for all your inputs, better get on with the program; cheers you all and may audio be with you :happy-smileygiantred:

 

[Zing]

What is this DVI thing you're talking about?

Don't worry about it. It's ancient, archaic, antiquated and going the way of the Dodo bird. :teasing-tease:

 

[Towen7]

I was just trying in my infantile way to make Barney's point by demonstrating that not long ago DVI was the only way to get a digital signal to a TV. As you aptly pointed out, that must-have connector has been replaced with at least three flavors of HDMI.

 

[Sailor]

would anyone suggest a comparable receiver to the AVR4311CI? :geek:

 

[Towen7]

Yamaha RXA-3000

 

[Razz]

Sailor,

If I were you I would make some serious consideration for separates at this point. You will end up with SOLID amplification and won't need to change it out every 4 years or so. Denon separates are very expensive in my opinion and I think you can get just as good, or even better elsewhere....

Take a look at these....
Integra
http://integrahometheater.com/model.cfm ... lifier&p=f

Onkyo
http://www.onkyopro.com/model.cfm?m=PR- ... lifier&p=i

Marantz
http://us.marantz.com/Products/3255.asp


Then get a NICE 5 or 7 channel amp....

ATI
http://classicaudioparts.com/store/ati- ... -sale.html

Outlaw
http://www.outlawaudio.com/products/index.html



A combination like this WILL sound better than the Denon 4311. I'm pretty sure most here would agree with that.

I like Denon and have had a number of there receivers, including the 3805. I'm very happy with my upgrade to separates.
I currently use an Onkyo Pre SC886 with an ATI 2007. And it's truly in a different league.

I got my Onkyo at ShopOnkyo.com and first ATI 1505 on Audiogon for a total LESS than that of a new Denon 4311.

 

[Sailor]

thanks Towen and Razz, i will be out this weekend taking a look at all of them, i live in Canada things are a little more pricy then the US. I am not sure about the ATI; i was on their website and the dealers location were not available.

 

[Razz]

ATIs website is retarded!

They actually sell their stuff through "Classic Audio Parts"
Their amps are STELLAR. I'm sure a few others here could pop in on this one.
They are located in California, L.A.

 

[Sailor]

ATIs website is retarded!

They actually sell their stuff through "Classic Audio Parts"
Their amps are STELLAR. I'm sure a few others here could pop in on this one.
They are located in California, L.A.

ATI has been a good conversation piece here, will i see a huge difference in comparaison to what i have now? this is going to be my last audio major purchase in a long time, and i want to do it right. is ATI comparable to say Rotel? i will be looking at them this week end, how about Moon audio products anyone here have heard of them http://www.simaudio.com/main.htm. i will look and listend to what you have suggested and more, and definitively will make my decision by this coming summer.

 

[yromj]

I would put ATI above Rotel.

Furthermore, the more I read your posts, the more I'm convinced Razz is right. I whole-heartedly agree that you should buy seperates. The Integra DHC-40.2 and an amp(s) from Parasound or ATI would take care of you for a long time to come. (You should never have to replace the amps.)

John

 

[Rope]

ATIs website is retarded!

They actually sell their stuff through "Classic Audio Parts"
Their amps are STELLAR. I'm sure a few others here could pop in on this one.
They are located in California, L.A.

ATI has been a good conversation piece here, will i see a huge difference in comparaison to what i have now? this is going to be my last audio major purchase in a long time, and i want to do it right. is ATI comparable to say Rotel? i will be looking at them this week end, how about Moon audio products anyone here have heard of them http://www.simaudio.com/main.htm. i will look and listend to what you have suggested and more, and definitively will make my decision by this coming summer.

I'm not certain what you have now, what I do know, when speaking of strickly electronics, there's is never a "hugh" difference. You will notice a lower noise floor and a bit more headroom.

I sold a Bryston 5B-ST and replaced it with an ATI AT2000, which I will add, received one hell of a deal while kicking tires at AudiogoN. I offered a "low ball" amount, low and behold, Classic Audio Parts accepted my offer.

If you want to appreciate a "hugh" difference in your audio system, think acoustics and speakers.

AudiogoN - ATI

Rope

 

[topper]

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Sailor weote:
"and i want to do it right. is ATI comparable to say Rotel? i will be looking at them this week end..."

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Yes, ATI is every bit as good as a comparable Rotel.

They are excellent amps.

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[Randy]

I am really excited about the new pre/pro from Marantz that Razz linked to. Now, if I could only get it past the finance dept.

 

[Sailor]

ATIs website is retarded!

They actually sell their stuff through "Classic Audio Parts"
Their amps are STELLAR. I'm sure a few others here could pop in on this one.
They are located in California, L.A.

ATI has been a good conversation piece here, will i see a huge difference in comparaison to what i have now? this is going to be my last audio major purchase in a long time, and i want to do it right. is ATI comparable to say Rotel? i will be looking at them this week end, how about Moon audio products anyone here have heard of them http://www.simaudio.com/main.htm. i will look and listend to what you have suggested and more, and definitively will make my decision by this coming summer.

I'm not certain what you have now, what I do know, when speaking of strickly electronics, there's is never a "hugh" difference. You will notice a lower noise floor and a bit more headroom.

I sold a Bryston 5B-ST and replaced it with an ATI AT2000, which I will add, received one hell of a deal while kicking tires at AudiogoN. I offered a "low ball" amount, low and behold, Classic Audio Parts accepted my offer.

If you want to appreciate a "hugh" difference in your audio system, think acoustics and speakers.

AudiogoN - ATI

Rope

Hi Rope: i have at the present time a Denon 3805 and my speakers B&W L-R Dm 604S3 Centre LCR 600S3 and Surround DS6S3 Monopole and Diapole, Sub SVS PB-13-Ultra and REL Q150E. i am very happy with the present speakers and don't expect to update anytime soon.

 

[Rope]

ATIs website is retarded!

They actually sell their stuff through "Classic Audio Parts"
Their amps are STELLAR. I'm sure a few others here could pop in on this one.
They are located in California, L.A.

ATI has been a good conversation piece here, will i see a huge difference in comparaison to what i have now? this is going to be my last audio major purchase in a long time, and i want to do it right. is ATI comparable to say Rotel? i will be looking at them this week end, how about Moon audio products anyone here have heard of them http://www.simaudio.com/main.htm. i will look and listend to what you have suggested and more, and definitively will make my decision by this coming summer.

I'm not certain what you have now, what I do know, when speaking of strickly electronics, there's is never a "hugh" difference. You will notice a lower noise floor and a bit more headroom.

I sold a Bryston 5B-ST and replaced it with an ATI AT2000, which I will add, received one hell of a deal while kicking tires at AudiogoN. I offered a "low ball" amount, low and behold, Classic Audio Parts accepted my offer.

If you want to appreciate a "hugh" difference in your audio system, think acoustics and speakers.

AudiogoN - ATI

Rope

[Hi Rope: i have at the present time a Denon 3805 and my speakers B&W L-R Dm 604S3 Centre LCR 600S3 and Surround DS6S3 Monopole and Diapole, Sub SVS PB-13-Ultra and REL Q150E. i am very happy with the present speakers and don't expect to update anytime soon.

Good for you! It's alway rewarding when you find the speakers that really yank your crank. Next, think acoustic treatment and placement if you're after a "hugh" sonic improvement. Last, upgrade your electronics to provide lower noise floor and improve head room.

Rope