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Red Dawn remake

So who is the invading country? North Korea? China?

In this "PC world" we live in, I don't see how they can pull off a movie like that and not piss off some country because we've made them the "bad guy". Personally, I think the movie's gonna be lame.


If Hollywood is going to start remaking cheezy movies from the 80s, why not just pony up and redo the Breakin' films?
 
I recently watched the original via NF.

Still pretty good but again why not original ideas?
 
According to IMDB it is the North Koreans.

Having recently seen the original from the trail or it looks like they stuck fairly close even lifting scenes from the first one.
 
mzpro5 said:
North Koreans.
That's a bad start. That country doesn't have enough tech, natural resources or population to pull off something even close to this. If it's China instead, then it's more credible but I think I know why Hollywood won't make it so. :shhh:
 
DIYer said:
mzpro5 said:
North Koreans.
That's a bad start. That country doesn't have enough tech, natural resources or population to pull off something even close to this. If it's China instead, then it's more credible but I think I know why Hollywood won't make it so. :shhh:
It appears they are using some type of EMP device to shut down anything electrical and such a device is not all that difficult to make. And they have made several nukes.

About their military, North Korea is the most militarized country in the world having the fourth largest Army at about 1.1 million active personnel, spending approximately 6 billion USD a year. 20% of men between 17-54 are active military troops. They also have about 3.5 million in a reserve called Worker Peasent Red Guard.
 
mzpro5 said:
About their military, North Korea is the most militarized country in the world having the fourth largest Army at about 1.1 million active personnel, spending approximately 6 billion USD a year. 20% of men between 17-54 are active military troops. They also have about 3.5 million in a reserve called Worker Peasent Red Guard.
Their $6 billion/yr vs US's $549.4 billion/yr. Big difference in how it's funded.

Lets look at China's armed force (assuming it's fairly accurate):
Budget: US$106.4 billion (2012)[5] (ranked 2nd) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Armed_Forces

^ Much more formidable than N. Korea, a nation of 24.5 million people with starvation as one of their main problems.
Wait a minute, US has obesity problem... :think: ... Maybe, just maybe, that can cancel each other out and level the playing field. :idea:
 
DIYer said:
......If it's China instead, then it's more credible but I think I know why Hollywood won't make it so. :shhh:



Because most of the equipment Hollywood uses is made from China?? That "don't bite the hand that feeds you" comment makes sense now. :laughing:
 
Yesfan70 said:
Because most of the equipment Hollywood uses is made from China?? That "don't bite the hand that feeds you" comment makes sense now. :laughing:
Yes, it's political. But then, they picked Australian actor as the lead character. :roll:
My guess is, this will be a flop. Made for CGI and LFE.
 
If you want to read a book about China invading the US, I recommend Invasion. I read it when it first came out in paperback. Neat escapism story with elements of Clancy etc. Some very interesting characters - and character development (beyond what you'd normally expect from such a tale). Would have made a FAR better screenplay / movie than (either) Red Dawn.
 

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If you want to read a book about China invading the US, I recommend Invasion. I read it when it first came out in paperback. Neat escapism story with elements of Clancy etc. Some very interesting characters - and character development (beyond what you'd normally expect from such a tale). Would have made a FAR better screenplay / movie than (either) Red Dawn.
If you happen to have a copy of that hold on to it.

Appears to be out of print and copies are going for a fair amount.
 
DIYer said:
Yesfan70 said:
Because most of the equipment Hollywood uses is made from China?? That "don't bite the hand that feeds you" comment makes sense now. :laughing:
Yes, it's political. But then, they picked Australian actor as the lead character. :roll:

I think it has more to do with wanting to sell tickets and DVDs in China. The Chinese government wouldn't allow it to be shown if it cast their country in a bad light.
 
mzpro5 said:
JeffMackwood said:
If you want to read a book about China invading the US, I recommend Invasion. I read it when it first came out in paperback. Neat escapism story with elements of Clancy etc. Some very interesting characters - and character development (beyond what you'd normally expect from such a tale). Would have made a FAR better screenplay / movie than (either) Red Dawn.
If you happen to have a copy of that hold on to it.

Appears to be out of print and copies are going for a fair amount.

I probably still have it.

However I see lots of copies for sale for $1.00 (plus shipping) at abebooks.com.
 
DIYer said:
My guess is, this will be a flop.
Oh well... :eusa-whistle:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/red_dawn_2012/
http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=reddawn10.htm

From Roger Ebert review:
If you're wondering how North Korea (population 25 million) can raise enough invaders to attack the Unites States (population 315 million), it may help to understand that the original screenplay for this remake named the invaders as Chinese. After principal photography was completed on this film three years ago and its studio (MGM) went belly-up, the enemy identity was changed to North Korea by reshooting several scenes, redubbing lots of dialogue and using digital adjustment to change the looks of flags, uniforms and insignia on trucks and tanks. Did this involve a change in ideology in Hollywood? Not really. A marketing genius figured out that China is one of the biggest markets for American movie exports, and North Korea generates unimpressive box-office bucks for Yank product, as the trade papers like to word it.
 
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