Simaudio's $18k pre-pro is a re-branded $1k Denon receiver
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Re: Simaudio's $18k pre-pro is a re-branded $1k Denon receiv
That kind of stuff is nothing new. http://www.audioholics.com/blu-ray-and- ... -outside-1
Because there's a sucker born every minute.
That kind of stuff is nothing new. http://www.audioholics.com/blu-ray-and- ... -outside-1
Because there's a sucker born every minute.
Re: Simaudio's $18k pre-pro is a re-branded $1k Denon receiv
Wow, that's disheartening...kinda. I doubt I would ever be in the market for anything that costs that much in the A/V world...but, that seems like a terrible business plan. As the guy says...Yay free market?!
Wow, that's disheartening...kinda. I doubt I would ever be in the market for anything that costs that much in the A/V world...but, that seems like a terrible business plan. As the guy says...Yay free market?!
lulimet
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Re: Simaudio's $18k pre-pro is a re-branded $1k Denon receiv
I wonder why Denon and Audyssey aren't suing them for using their product without permission.
I know it's nothing new, many "high end" companyies have done stuff like this before, but $18k?DIYer said:That kind of stuff is nothing new. http://www.audioholics.com/blu-ray-and- ... -outside-1
Because there's a sucker born every minute.
I wonder why Denon and Audyssey aren't suing them for using their product without permission.
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Re: Simaudio's $18k pre-pro is a re-branded $1k Denon receiv
As stated above, the implication is that Bryston is a copy of Lexicon. (English usage - rather than a mathematical equation.)
I trust you really meant to say that "Bryston manufactures some amplifiers for Lexicon" - which I believe is a statement of fact.
Correct?
You may want to clarify that statement.Rope said:
As stated above, the implication is that Bryston is a copy of Lexicon. (English usage - rather than a mathematical equation.)
I trust you really meant to say that "Bryston manufactures some amplifiers for Lexicon" - which I believe is a statement of fact.
Correct?
Re: Simaudio's $18k pre-pro is a re-branded $1k Denon receiv
I don't have as big a problem with this as most seem. Don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying that Sim's pre/pro is 15 times better than Denon's. But ... Lets assume they made major changes to the UI, added video and/or processing improvements, upgraded components, and/or made changes to the circuit designs and layout of the hardware that improved (real or perceived) signal quality.
If we give Sim at least some benefit of the doubt that they did something more than throw Denon parts into a new chassis, is it not a different product. How much modification is required before it's okay to consider it a new product?
I don't have as big a problem with this as most seem. Don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying that Sim's pre/pro is 15 times better than Denon's. But ... Lets assume they made major changes to the UI, added video and/or processing improvements, upgraded components, and/or made changes to the circuit designs and layout of the hardware that improved (real or perceived) signal quality.
If we give Sim at least some benefit of the doubt that they did something more than throw Denon parts into a new chassis, is it not a different product. How much modification is required before it's okay to consider it a new product?
Re: Simaudio's $18k pre-pro is a re-branded $1k Denon receiv
I can almost get there Towen but Sim is asking a ridiculous mark-up for their name and I'm having a real tough time with their stance on the licensing fees according to the linked article. I was surprised that the company readily admitted the use of the Denon architecture and that some of the internals were even changed at all...but from $1k or whatever to $18k is a fucking flat out joke and to an extent infuriates me that they can't justify the asking price with their own "from the ground up" R&D...all this and no apparent permission from Denon?!? Wtf? It just doesn't seem right. :twocents-mytwocents:
I can almost get there Towen but Sim is asking a ridiculous mark-up for their name and I'm having a real tough time with their stance on the licensing fees according to the linked article. I was surprised that the company readily admitted the use of the Denon architecture and that some of the internals were even changed at all...but from $1k or whatever to $18k is a fucking flat out joke and to an extent infuriates me that they can't justify the asking price with their own "from the ground up" R&D...all this and no apparent permission from Denon?!? Wtf? It just doesn't seem right. :twocents-mytwocents:
