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[Botch]

This is for the keyboard players here.

Several of my Farcebook friends are at the NAMM show this week (National Association of Music Merchants) where all the latest musical instruments are demo'd by their manufacturers. Although I don't gig anymore I still drool at new toys, really liked this one:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfLTlbGwXD0[/youtube]

That matrix of buttons on the right would be SO cool for step-sequencing, and I love the physical knobs that "snap" to their correct position for presets (something that Nord came out with years ago). No idea on the cost. But, kewl!
:music-rockout:

 

[heeman]

This is for the keyboard TECHNICIANS here.

Several of my Farcebook friends are at the NAMM show this week (National Association of Music Merchants) where all the latest musical instruments are demo'd by their manufacturers. Although I don't gig anymore I still drool at new toys, really liked this one:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfLTlbGwXD0[/youtube]

That matrix of buttons on the right would be SO cool for step-sequencing, and I love the physical knobs that "snap" to their correct position for presets (something that Nord came out with years ago). No idea on the cost. But, kewl!
:music-rockout:

REVISED...........................

 

[Yesfan70]

.........REVISED...........................

I guess Geddy, Wakeman, and others are technicians too? :shock:

 

[Botch]

Technicians!

:music-rockout: :ugeek:

 

[heeman]

.........REVISED...........................

I guess Geddy, Wakeman, and others are technicians too? :shock:

I will try not to be a DICK with this response!

Wakeman is a Classical trained .................pianist, so that rules him out.

Geddy is one of the greatest bass players every, he is a Keyboard Technician, period!

This has always been a sore spot with me due to the fact that I took/played piano for many years and at that time when they were still very expensive, limited monophonic synthesizers and it was very difficult for keyboard players with limited funds to get a portable keyboard to lug around to gigs. However when my grandfather on my Mom's side passed when I was in 8th grade. My Mom and Dad bought me a Farfisa Synth in memory of his passing. This was a gift that was cherished for years even though it was plagued with design and reliability issues.

Piano Players are trurly musicians that Play Notes with the beautiful instrument a piano is..............the electronic stuff with effects, can be played with someone like Wakeman and Lee, however the effect is much more important than the technique..................

I am rambling...............this is important to me.

Take Jon Lord from Deep Purple...............he was a trained keyboardist, not a technician, even though he may have introduced some of the machine made sounds and effects. He was one of the Best of The Kind, may he Rest In Peace.

I have been a Wakeman Fan since I was introduce to Yes in the 8th grade. He is another virtuoso............another one of the greatest! He can use all of the keyboard technologies to make the best of his craft.

There is a true difference between a keyboard player and an keyboard technician...............PERIOD!!!

Ramble, Ramble, Ramble...................................My Point is Playing and Knowing what knobs to push are very, very different.............electronics vs. art!


I AM DONE!!!

:music-rockout: :music-rockout:

 

[heeman]

Rick...................

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05k8DgEXZXM[/youtube]

 

[heeman]

Rick and Jon.................

Rick was always a comedian!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsJApGdm97c[/youtube]

 

[heeman]

That's right Mother Fu%kers! I am taking over this thread!!!

:text-threadjacked:

 

[heeman]

Rick..................Stairway To Heaven.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvjjOO4R7Bo[/youtube]

:angelic-green: :angelic-green:

 

[heeman]

:bow-blue: :bow-blue:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nivKzGBjDE[/youtube]

 

[heeman]

My Favorite.............Close To The Edge.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKVYEShL2fs[/youtube]

 

[heeman]

I apologize for my ill behavior tonight!!

Well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,maybe.................. bscene-birdiedoublered: bscene-birdiedoublered:

 

[heeman]

AH S@IT WE FORGOT ONE OF THE BEST..................

KEITH EMERSON!!!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psgQsFK7BdA[/youtube]

 

[heeman]

:banana-rock: :banana-rock: :banana-rock: :banana-rock:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg2KjxNtAiM[/youtube]

 

[Flint]

Don't forget Wendy Carlos who taught us the a moog can play Bach. And more recently Roger Joseph Manning, Jr. who taught us that a moog can play modern rock and roll with character and style (Moog Cookbook).

There are, indeed, artists who make use of whatever tools they can find.

Technicians on keyboard include Pete Townsend, Eddie Van Halen, even Chris Squire (bass synths for effect) and others.

 

[Botch]

Like Billy Gibbons hitting a guitar string with the point, then the edge of a pick, then the meat of his thumb...

Like Scott Hamilton changing his embouchure, his tongue, his breath, the angle of the reed...

... a talented synthesizer player can mold the tone of his respective instrument, to fit the song, the mood, the conversation, the phrase.
The note.

Yeah, there are wankers on synthesizers, just as there are wankers on guitar who finger in the pentatonic "box" as fast as possible and think its music.

Keith, I don't know if this is in print anymore, but I highly recommend you give it a spin if you can find it:

Incredible sound-sculpting by a master synthesist who never got the recognition he deserved. See also: Joe Zawinul, Hiromi.

 

[Botch]

And now I understand the flood of keyboard videos by one each Heeman. :happy-smileygiantred: bscene-drinkingcheers: :handgestures-thumbup:

 

[Flint]

I think Hiromi has a ways to go before she is a virtuoso on the synth. What I've heard of her on a synth is playing piano on a keyboard making a funny sound. She is a genius pianist and blows me away, but really making use of the unique characteristics of a synth isn't her thing, at least not from what I've heard.

Someone we should also acknowledge is Jordan Rudeness (Dream Theater), although he clearly has terrible technique and will probably suffer from bad arthritis from it, he manages to pull off some of the most amazing things with the most extreme electronic devices AND can get on a piano or pipe organ and be a virtuoso. For someone who appears completely self-taught, he is amazing. He would be amazing either way.

 

[PaulyT]

"Technique" can mean a lot of things, but to me it just means how you get the best sound out of an instrument. Yeah the technique of playing classical piano is rather different from that of a pop/rock synth, which is different from say a pipe organ. There's some overlap of course, but these instruments all require some specialized training and technique to bring out all they're capable of.

 

[Flint]

"Technique" can mean a lot of things, but to me it just means how you get the best sound out of an instrument. Yeah the technique of playing classical piano is rather different from that of a pop/rock synth, which is different from say a pipe organ. There's some overlap of course, but these instruments all require some specialized training and technique to bring out all they're capable of.

Since my mom is a master teacher, and I've been listening to her and her peers talk about hand technique since I was a small boy, I notice how people place their hands on the keyboard when they play and I can usually tell who has been formally educated and who wasn't, or at least only got a little training before going off on their own. What I've both been told by educators, and seen in my musician friends as they get older, is that very poor hand position and finger technique on the piano, if you play often (like a full-time working musician such as Mr. Rudeness), the long term use of the muscles in a way they were not intended to be used will pull and tear on the joints and cause stresses which lead to early and more difficult arthritis of the joints. However, if you move those joints and use those muscles the way God designed them to be moved by using the proper hand positions and techniques learned over centuries of experience, playing piano can actually help stave off arthritis, or at least reduce its painful deterioration.

As such, I work hard to maintain proper hand and stick control technique when I play drums, and I can tell when I get lazy and use a grip I shouldn't.