@Akula I've got the Sony X800, and if you stream netflix at all, and to a lesser degree Amazon Prime Video, I would get a player. I've bought more 4K disks than what I though I would buy, but we are constantly streaming something from Netflix, and it's usually in 4K. Maybe you can already do that with an app on the tv, but at least with my tv, a Vizio, streamed 4K from the player looks better than any other way to stream it. I feel it also is the best way to upconvert 1080 stuff as well.