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Next Gen Amazon Fire TV about to hit market?

Discussion in 'Source Components II' started by Flint, Sep 12, 2017.

  1. Flint

    Flint "Do you know who I am?" Superstar

    I went to Amazon to quickly compare the current Fire TV to the new Apple TV 4K, but none are available except as refurbished units.

    Maybe they are about to launch a new model?
  2. CMonster

    CMonster Lazy Individual

    Hmm, wonder if a new one is one the way that supports HDR and Atmos. Related, was there any mention of Atmos support with the new Apple TV 4K?
  3. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member Staff Member Moderator Famous

    Appears there's no Atmos

  4. CMonster

    CMonster Lazy Individual

  5. Flint

    Flint "Do you know who I am?" Superstar

    I don't see any reason ATMOS couldn't be enabled with a firmware upgrade.
  6. Haywood

    Haywood Well-Known Member Famous

    Lack of UV support is still a deal-killer for me. Add that and I'm in.
  7. Flint

    Flint "Do you know who I am?" Superstar

  8. Haywood

    Haywood Well-Known Member Famous

    I would drop Vudu and switch everything over to Amazon in a hot second if they supported UV.
  9. Flint

    Flint "Do you know who I am?" Superstar

    Haywood, I don't understand. You don't want the Amazon Fire TV for some reason?

  10. Flint

    Flint "Do you know who I am?" Superstar

    This thread belongs in the Source Component II section under Video. Sorry.

    So I have seen several rumors out there that the next generation Fire TV will be a full-features Echo with an HDMI output for Fire TV capabilities. While this is very intriguing and probably a great idea - the room I want to put it in already has an Echo in earshot in the kitchen. So, adding a second Echo to a common area cannot be a good idea. However, if I want the top video features (4K, HDR, Atmos, etc,) I have to get the model which includes Alexa. If I chose to get this (if the rumors are true), then I could remove the Echo Dot from my Kitchen area, but I use Echo in the kitchen far more often than when I am in the seating area watching TV, so I'd have to shout from the kitchen to get responses from Alexa across the room next to the TV. Bummer.
  11. PaulyT

    PaulyT Behind the Curtain Staff Member Administrator Moderator Superstar

    NP. Moved.
  12. Towen7

    Towen7 Well-Known Member Staff Member Moderator

    The Echo devices are supposed to be smart enough that if more than one hears a command, only the closes will respond. I agree that it’s still silly to have two devices in close proximity.

    I wonder if there is a Fire TV with built-in Echo capability ... how will that work?
    I keep my STBs inside a cabinet. I also tried using a Dot on the TV stand but it simply wouldn’t work when watching TV or playing music since it was too close to the speakers.
  13. Haywood

    Haywood Well-Known Member Famous

    You could just turn off the mic on one of them.
  14. Flint

    Flint "Do you know who I am?" Superstar

    If I tell my echo device to turn off the mic, how do I turn it back on again if it isn't listening to me? This reminds me of my wife, AI is getting too realistic.
  15. Huey

    Huey Well-Known Member Famous

    This you will have to do the old fashion way, and hit the button on top.

    Although I realize after I posted you were being a little sarcastic, so you probably already knew that.
  16. Flint

    Flint "Do you know who I am?" Superstar

    If I was capable of pushing my wife's button I'd still be married.

    Good night, everyone! thanks for coming out and be sure to tip your waitress!
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  17. yromj

    yromj Well-Known Member

    Interesting. I keep my Dot on top of the TV stand under the TV which puts it w/in 6" of my right speaker. I don't have issues with it hearing or understanding me. The only rare exception is when it's something odd (like adding an unusual item to my grocery list) and the sound is pretty loud.

    With multiple types of devices starting to appear with Alexa built in, they're going to have to get really good at only one device responding at a time. If this does come out someone could have a Fire in the living room, an Echo in the kitchen and an Ecobee Thermostat somewhere in between. One Alexa command could easily be heard by all three devices.

  18. Haywood

    Haywood Well-Known Member Famous

    Ecobee thermostats can be controlled by Alexa, but do not have Alexa built directly in (unless there is a new version I don't know about). I've had one for maybe 8 months and really like it a lot. Having sensors around the house really helps too, especially during times of day when only one floor is occupied.
  19. yromj

    yromj Well-Known Member

    Yeah, the Ecobee 4 has it built-in.

  20. Haywood

    Haywood Well-Known Member Famous

    Very cool. I've got the Ecobee 3.

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