Steinway Lyngdof speakers
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They apply many of the principles I have been promoting on the forums for a decade. Their "boundary woofer" technology is identical to my "stick the sub in the corner" advice. Their wide baffles reflect my advice and my own designs. Their Tweeter / Midrange designs are always vertical just like my lectures on center channel speakers. Their large speaker driver arrangements are symmetrical like all of my MTM or WMTMW designs and advice. They take advantage of the D'Appolito arrangements as I have always done. They use room correcting software as I have done since moving to digital crossovers. They use active crossovers as I have always recommended.
Assuming they have good voicing and decent drivers, I imagine they sound pretty damn good.
However, it is absolutely impossible of a single speaker to sound identical in every room you could put it in. While it could have the same voicing and frequency balance, you cannot change the room's impact with echos and reverb.
Assuming they have good voicing and decent drivers, I imagine they sound pretty damn good.
However, it is absolutely impossible of a single speaker to sound identical in every room you could put it in. While it could have the same voicing and frequency balance, you cannot change the room's impact with echos and reverb.
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So here's my 90/1 (performance / fraction of the price) suggestion:
1. Acquire two used pairs of Koss CM/1030 speakers - with drivers intact and fully-functional, and cabinets in good shape.
2. Fully refurbish their crossovers / switches.
3. Place one pair atop the other - tweeter-to-tweeter - creating a very similar speaker array to the big Steinways.
4. Power them with a couple of 200W/ch stereo amps.
Total cost (n/incl amps): ~$1k-$2k.
Sound: big; room-filling; full-range; dynamic; clean.
Now (like Wards says) take the difference that you woulda spent on the Steinways and buy a really nice retirement / vacation property in just about any place in the US to set them up in!
Not saying I wouldn't love to hear the Steinways, nor own a pair if I had a huge amount of disposable cash available, but the attributes that come to mind when I see them in the pic above very closely match what I know the Koss "stacks" can produce.
But I'm far from unbiased here!
Jeff
1. Acquire two used pairs of Koss CM/1030 speakers - with drivers intact and fully-functional, and cabinets in good shape.
2. Fully refurbish their crossovers / switches.
3. Place one pair atop the other - tweeter-to-tweeter - creating a very similar speaker array to the big Steinways.
4. Power them with a couple of 200W/ch stereo amps.
Total cost (n/incl amps): ~$1k-$2k.
Sound: big; room-filling; full-range; dynamic; clean.
Now (like Wards says) take the difference that you woulda spent on the Steinways and buy a really nice retirement / vacation property in just about any place in the US to set them up in!
Not saying I wouldn't love to hear the Steinways, nor own a pair if I had a huge amount of disposable cash available, but the attributes that come to mind when I see them in the pic above very closely match what I know the Koss "stacks" can produce.
But I'm far from unbiased here!
Jeff
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DIYer said:
Well I did use the word "similar."
As to "more like" you are correct. Only the Model D uses a single tweeter, two mids, and four woofers in what looks like a near-classic D'Appolito array to me.
I've often described a Koss CM/1030 stack as a "modified D'Appolito array" or even "D'Appolito-like." While the D is a three-way design, the 1030 is four way: tweeter, treble tweeter, (dual side-by-side) mids, woofer. Stacked, it places the highest frequency drivers in the centre. To the ear it sounds very much like a single tweeter. (I tried to post a pic but once again I get a "the image you tried to post is invalid" message.)
However there are tons of real differences between the two, most notably (at least to me) that the D operates as a dipole speaker - which the 1030 is most definitely not. Throw in digital amps and room EQ etc. and it's obviously even more different.
But I guess my (tongue-in-cheek) point was that (based entirely on the posted photo of the D) if you wanted an 81" high, 125lb speaker with woofers on the ends and tweeter in the middle, you might want to try a 78" high, 148 lb stack of 1030s - and treat yourself to a condo to put them in.
Jeff