The Last Jedi - SPOILER Thread

[Akula]

Glad I'm not the only one who didn't care for the casino sequence. Honestly though, there had been hints at a homosexual relationship in this one, and for a brief moment I thought that maybe Rose might be the one, but it was her sister that was killed in the bomb drop. And what's up with Finn and his love sick attitude for Rey? Between Rose, Rey, Finn and Poe, there were enough longing glances at each other, that any of them could hook up.

Finn was interested in Rey in The Force Awakens. It was pretty evident that he was following her like a puppy. But in The Last Jedi, it looks like maybe Rose is getting his attention- she's not just a pretty face or a powerful hero, but just some ordinary person with tremendous strength of character and it looked like that was beginning to get his attention at the end. But yeah, that can go pretty much any way at this point.

 

[Akula]

Interesting article saying the failures of the main characters actually strengthen the film:

http://warisboring.com/star-wars-the-last-jedi-and-the-value-of-military-failure/

 

[The DirtMerchant]

Oh, and I thought for once we were gonna see Benicio as a good guy, but nope, he was an asshole as he is in most of his movies.

 

[Huey]

If you go back far enough, you can see a young Del Toro in one the James Bond Films. It's one of the films with Timothy Dalton, and the one where Anthony Zerbe gets blown up in the pressure chamber. And of course he's playing a henchman, but he is a little more than a back ground character.

 

[Akula]

If you go back far enough, you can see a young Del Toro in one the James Bond Films. It's one of the films with Timothy Dalton, and the one where Anthony Zerbe gets blown up in the pressure chamber. And of course he's playing a henchman, but he is a little more than a back ground character.

He was a bit more than just a background henchman. It was a full speaking role and he was the chief henchman. Played the role well, too. He does a good job with the sleazy characters.

 

[Huey]

It had been awhile since I saw the movie, I knew he had a speaking part, just couldn't remember how much of one.

 

[mzpro5]

Just got back from seeing it. first impression, it was ok but found myself getting bored until the last 30-45 minutes. Will have to think on it some.

 

[Huey]

Maybe it was there and I just don't remember it, but I don't remember any scenes with a lot of Star Wars music. I think when Luke became a force ghost maybe there was, but at least for me the music doesn't stand out as it has in past installments. Again, I may have over looked being engrossed in the film.

 

[Batman]

I thought as usual the soundtrack stood out. Good mix of the old and the new. The scene with Luke you just pointed out, lots of stuff with Leia and of course Rey. Even some Vader themes were thrown in again for good measure.

 

[Huey]

I thought as usual the soundtrack stood out. Good mix of the old and the new. The scene with Luke you just pointed out, lots of stuff with Leia and of course Rey. Even some Vader themes were thrown in again for good measure.

I might have been too interested in what was going on with the movie, plan on seeing it again with my son and I'll have to pay more attention to it.

 

[MatthewB]

I loved this movie and I'm a huge STAR wars fan I loved how Luke died looking at the twin Suns setting just as he looked at them when he was younger and his life changed. When he projected himself onto the ice planet I thought that was awesome as well as Laura Dern sacrificing herself and destroying the huge ass battleship. I saw it opening weekend and when she did that the whole audience was dead silent for a few seconds then just burst into applause. It had some great funny scenes and yes I saw the Jedi books on the falcon after Rey grabs a blanket. As a fan I loved everything about this movie, especially the look on the porgs faces as Chewie was about to eat two of them he roasted on a spit.

 

[TitaniumTroy]

I liked this episode a lot better than TFA, it had almost Marvel level humor. The light saber battles were pretty cool in the throne room, especially the ole' hole in the eye trick. Two Thumbs up from me.

I haven't read anything on the net yet, but is Snoke really dead? Perhaps his boasting that he knew Ben's every thought was literal and an easter egg of things to come. Could he have transferred his consciousness to a clone? When he was cut down it was kinda anti-climatic. Compared to the Emperor's death scene in ESB, as in no big explosion of the force.

Same with Rey's parents, they are going to need some plot twists and devices in the next chapter. I think overall the Star Wars are about hope/courage in the face of evil and Rey's parents backstory was kinda of a bummer.

I agree that the casino scene was pretty weak, and something about Leia moving in space looked off. I don't have a problem with her using the force but the way they did it looked corny/chessy/odd.

 

[Bote]

I just saw it in imax. Liked it better than TFA. But the general looks weak to me. His romantic role in a movie i saw a while back keeps coming to my mind. I did not like him in the revenant too. And why do they have English accents?

 

[Huey]

Wife got me Battlefront II for Christmas, and I finished the main campaign yesterday. Game starts right after they blow up the second Death Star at Endor. Main Campaign ends on Jakku. Couldn't help but notice how much Del looks like Rey. Disney is getting pretty good at tying all of these things together, so I'm wondering if Rey could be the daughter of Iden Versio and Del. Just a thought, as also it's been speculated that she is somehow related to someone on the Rebels cartoon.

 

[Huey]

So I guess I wasn't the only one to think that Battlefront II may be connected to The Last Jedi. LINK

 

[Yesfan70]

Saw this movie last Saturday. I guess I'm in the minority. I thought Force Awakens, though heavily recycled from Ep 4, was much better than Jedi. At least Ep 7 was better than the prequels, this not much better.

I thought for sure, when Leia was blown out into space, that was how she was going to go out. Ben couldn't kill his mother like he did with Han, so another fighter just happens to do it for him, relieving Ben of that burden (and possibly revealing a potential Force conflict?). Leia then dies in battle and Fisher's legacy is complete.

Then all of a sudden, she turns into Mary Poppins and floats her way back to another ship where she is saved. WTF?? Really? Stupid.

Luke was, imo, a pussy in this film. I didn't expect him to be this mega Jedi warrior cutting down the First Order with his "laser sword", but at least be closer to Kenobi and Yoda from a wisdom perspective. I thought that was the direction when Rey sees him toss his old light saber over the cliff. Instead, he spends the majority of the film wallowing in self pity. His death scene was pretty cool as it reminiscent of him staring away at the dual sunsets on Tatooine from Ep 4, but too early in the trilogy for me. Honestly, Luke doesn't have to die at all. It's funny of the major three characters from the original trilogy, the two that die are still alive in real life. Carrie Fisher is gone, yet Leia can float through outer freaking space unaffected using the Force to stay alive. If she's that strong with the Force, then she's really done the Resistance a disservice.

I was wanting to know more about Snoke and Rey. Nothing. I do like that Rey is not another Skywalker, but was hoping there was more to her than just being an orphan. That's still better than Snoke. Nothing about him at all except seeing him die like a chump from a Jedi/Sith wannabe like Ren. Same with Phasma. Seems her character was played up at the start of this trilogy, but she's pretty much a nobody. The Casino scene didn't do anything for me either. It seemed to be just infoless filler like the pod race from Phantom Menace. Then there's Rose. She's just unlikable. I hope if there has to be a "hook up" in this trilogy, it's Finn with Rey....not Rose.

I just didn't enjoy this movie like the last two. I hope the Solo movie is better as I don't know how Ep9 is going to tie everything in from this new trilogy. I think not killing off Leia after Fisher's passing is going to be a huge obstacle for the next film.

 

[Akula]

Luke was, imo, a pussy in this film. I didn't expect him to be this mega Jedi warrior cutting down the First Order with his "laser sword", but at least be closer to Kenobi and Yoda from a wisdom perspective. I thought that was the direction when Rey sees him toss his old light saber over the cliff. Instead, he spends the majority of the film wallowing in self pity.

I'm with you on Space Poppins, but I don't get this criticism. Luke being whiny is the cornerstone of the character. He never did get to go to Tosche Station for power converters. And Jedi going into hiding after a failure is exactly what Kenobi and Yoda did. It might as well be a cornerstone of the Jedi order. The amazing thing is if they head to work after spilling their coffee at breakfast.

 

[Yesfan70]

Ok, I'll give you that with the Kenobi/Yoda reference. Good point. I guess I wanted to see more of Luke from a Jedi Master point. We don't get that until the end, and he's killed off midway through the trilogy.

 

[Huey]

Finishing the Battlefront II add on resurrection yesterday, and you find out that Iden Versio and Del Meeko have a daughter named Zay. I'm not sure if they say when exactly when in the timeline this part of the game takes place, but an older Leia, the way she looked in the last two movies is there, as well as Poe is mentioned when they give the plans for the dreadnought to Leia.

I don't know if Disney is leaving subtle clues as maybe misdirection, but in the game you see the same downed star destroyer as you do in the Force Awakens, which would be Zay's grandfathers ship, and maybe Rey's. All I know, if there is a Zay in the next movie, I'm betting that Iden and Del are Rey's parents.

 

[Xgm3]

Saw this movie last Saturday. I guess I'm in the minority. I thought Force Awakens, though heavily recycled from Ep 4, was much better than Jedi. At least Ep 7 was better than the prequels, this not much better.

I thought for sure, when Leia was blown out into space, that was how she was going to go out. Ben couldn't kill his mother like he did with Han, so another fighter just happens to do it for him, relieving Ben of that burden (and possibly revealing a potential Force conflict?). Leia then dies in battle and Fisher's legacy is complete.

Then all of a sudden, she turns into Mary Poppins and floats her way back to another ship where she is saved. WTF?? Really? Stupid.

Luke was, imo, a pussy in this film. I didn't expect him to be this mega Jedi warrior cutting down the First Order with his "laser sword", but at least be closer to Kenobi and Yoda from a wisdom perspective. I thought that was the direction when Rey sees him toss his old light saber over the cliff. Instead, he spends the majority of the film wallowing in self pity. His death scene was pretty cool as it reminiscent of him staring away at the dual sunsets on Tatooine from Ep 4, but too early in the trilogy for me. Honestly, Luke doesn't have to die at all. It's funny of the major three characters from the original trilogy, the two that die are still alive in real life. Carrie Fisher is gone, yet Leia can float through outer freaking space unaffected using the Force to stay alive. If she's that strong with the Force, then she's really done the Resistance a disservice.

I was wanting to know more about Snoke and Rey. Nothing. I do like that Rey is not another Skywalker, but was hoping there was more to her than just being an orphan. That's still better than Snoke. Nothing about him at all except seeing him die like a chump from a Jedi/Sith wannabe like Ren. Same with Phasma. Seems her character was played up at the start of this trilogy, but she's pretty much a nobody. The Casino scene didn't do anything for me either. It seemed to be just infoless filler like the pod race from Phantom Menace. Then there's Rose. She's just unlikable. I hope if there has to be a "hook up" in this trilogy, it's Finn with Rey....not Rose.

I just didn't enjoy this movie like the last two. I hope the Solo movie is better as I don't know how Ep9 is going to tie everything in from this new trilogy. I think not killing off Leia after Fisher's passing is going to be a huge obstacle for the next film.

I pretty much agree with all of this. I was very disappointed with the movie.