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Some senior moment questions

mzpro5

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A few years ago I would have been one of those answering this question but . . .

I am considering a change from my current pre/pro an Onkyo PR-SC5508. It is working fine but would like soething that handles 4k and Atmos Can I use a receiver as a pre/pro and still run the audio thru my amp? I am pretty sure I can.

I am trying to keep the expense down. Woot has an offer on this

https://www.woot.com/offers/onkyo-t...ontent=Rec-Template&ref_=pe_3185080_386959280
 

Haywood

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I have had several Onkyo receivers fail on me and decided to avoid them in the future. I would personally recommend going to www.accessories4less.com and getting a Marantz or a Denon. They are an official factory-sanctioned store, so warranties are valid. The receivers are all refurbished, but I've had good luck. I ended up getting my Marantz SR-6010 for half off retail.
 

mzpro5

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I have had several Onkyo receivers fail on me and decided to avoid them in the future. I would personally recommend going to www.accessories4less.com and getting a Marantz or a Denon. They are an official factory-sanctioned store, so warranties are valid. The receivers are all refurbished, but I've had good luck. I ended up getting my Marantz SR-6010 for half off retail.
Thanks Scott. I went to the site and found this

https://www.accessories4less.com/ma...0-watts-networking-a/v-receiver-w/heos/1.html

Cheaper than the Onkyo I was looking at and very good reviews. About ready to pull the trigger.
 

Dentman

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Thanks Scott. I went to the site and found this

https://www.accessories4less.com/ma...0-watts-networking-a/v-receiver-w/heos/1.html

Cheaper than the Onkyo I was looking at and very good reviews. About ready to pull the trigger.
I didn't notice any pre-outs on that unit, double check it.
I bought my receiver/pre/pro and speakers from them, no issues at all. Check the yamaha offerings for lower priced 4k HDMI 2.0 and above offerings with pre outs, that's the way I went.
 

Towen7

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I didn't notice any pre-outs on that unit, double check it.
Correct
This receiver does NOT have speaker pre-outs and can’t be used with a separate amp. The only pre-outs are for the sub.
 

mzpro5

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I also am thinking this upgrade is more about giving me a project to work on than an improvement to my system.
 

Flint

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Superstar
The question is this... do you want the best sound when doing critical listening?

Here's a test best report from S&V on that receiver:
https://www.soundandvision.com/content/denon-avr-x3400h-av-receiver-review-test-bench

With all channel driven, the amps do about 73 Watts per channel before the distortion is so high it is clearly audible and the current runs out on bass content. That might be more than fine for you.

The separate amps can do much more than that, and will handle high volumes and tougher loads more effectively. But, not everyone needs those capabilities in their system. If you mostly watch video content at moderate to low levels, you probably don't need separate amps. If you want to have that magical supreme critical listening experience or occasionally crank-up the action movie with no apparent compression or limiting, then use your amps. If you are fine with knowing the system has limits you cannot exceed, then ditch the amps.
 

heeman

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mzpro5

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The question is this... do you want the best sound when doing critical listening?

Here's a test best report from S&V on that receiver:
https://www.soundandvision.com/content/denon-avr-x3400h-av-receiver-review-test-bench

With all channel driven, the amps do about 73 Watts per channel before the distortion is so high it is clearly audible and the current runs out on bass content. That might be more than fine for you.

The separate amps can do much more than that, and will handle high volumes and tougher loads more effectively. But, not everyone needs those capabilities in their system. If you mostly watch video content at moderate to low levels, you probably don't need separate amps. If you want to have that magical supreme critical listening experience or occasionally crank-up the action movie with no apparent compression or limiting, then use your amps. If you are fine with knowing the system has limits you cannot exceed, then ditch the amps.
Thanks flint my thoughts are similar.

And it is only one amp



Outlaw 7200
 

Haywood

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I run my front three off my five channel amp and run the surrounds off the receiver on the territory that dividing the load provides more headroom.
 

Flint

Dog Faced Pony Soldier
Superstar
I run my front three off my five channel amp and run the surrounds off the receiver on the territory that dividing the load provides more headroom.
That depends on the amps being used. Generally, stand alone actually sound and perform better than most receiver amps, so running everything off a stand alone amp should be a better option. Of course, if all of the amps are rated at a borderline power level, like 50 watts, your idea has merit, but if the amps are over 100 watts, and your speakers are 6 Ohms or higher, the stand alone amp is very likely going to perform better.
 
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