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4K TV is real... who's getting one first?

I can't do a plasma in my living room because of too many windows so I've been waiting for OLED to become viable as I think that will be the only suitable replacement for my professionally calibrated Sony SXRD (XBR).
 
When the KURO bites the big one, I'll then choose to 4k, or not to 4k. Until then I'm happier than a pig in poop.

Rope
 
Flint said:
I have no intentions of buying a new TV. I am not saying that by not buying a 4k TV you are a fool.

I am saying it is superior, in virtually every application it is superior. That's all.

Also, based on what I saw this week hear at CES, every single one of us won't have a choice in 12 months. I think every single moderately good or better TV in every single store will be a 4K model. 1080p sets will be relegated to budget models.
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Every application? So you're saying even a cheap, no-name brand Walmart 4k set will be better than a top of the line Samsung or Panasonic 1080 calibrated one? I doubt it. Cost cutting, poor design & implementation will not be a thing of the past.
 
Apples and oranges ... I'm sure Flint meant that comparing 4K and 1080p sets of the same relative quality would reveal the 4K to be superior.
 
I've read this thread off and on since it started but don't think I've ever commented.

To me 4k is a cool evolutionary step. We were stuck at 480i for decades (LITERALLY!) and now we're moving from 1080p to 2160p (/aside: the resolution of 4k is 3840x2160, right? :/asideoff) It will be something I look for in my next projector, whenever that is. It is something I would like to have in my LR display as well.

The discussion I can't get my head around is whether or not it will succeed. It shall succeed. This isn't a 3D-esque or BD vs HD-DVD discussion.

3D requires the viewer to make sure that certain things are correct with both hardware (up to 3 pieces if they have a receiver) and software. Let alone the fact that they have to have glasses for everyone viewing and the viewing conditions have to be at least considered. These last two conditions are why it's very difficult to have a 3D superbowl party.

4k's "competition" would be 1080p, I guess. However, how long is it going to take for manufacturers stop making either 1080p or 720p panels for anything but the smallest sets? (I'm not sure what the largest 720p set is you can still buy.) Which you choose is based on your budget and criteria. Is every set sold a 1080p set? Nope. Has 1080p succeeded? I think so.

The availability of 1080p material is sort of limited, too, when you think about it. I have two sources for 1080p material. (1) Blu-rays (2) On-demand items from Dish. My ISP does not support "SUPER HD" from Netflix and I don't know about Amazon. It won't be long at all before 4k material is this accessible.

So, the way I see it is this: eventually the vast majority of main viewing displays (ie sets for LRs, dens, HTs, etc.) sold will be 4k. The debate, IMHO, is when 4k will surpass 1080p. Christmas 2014 is going to be interesting to watch and see if it happens then.

John
 
John brings up a question: is 3D capability being left off of newer, better sets now? I would think once the designs, circuitry, and manufacturing capabilities are/were in place, it costs little extra, if anything, to include it in future sets, even if few people use it.
 
Botch, I would guess it's included because of exactly what you said. That's just a guess, though.

John
 
Here's another clue suggesting that the future will be all 4K resolution:

Sony's leaked code for their next high end smartphone shows support for 4K video recording.
 
Flint said:
Here's another clue suggesting that the future will be all 4K resolution:

Sony's leaked code for their next high end smartphone shows support for 4K video recording.
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Pfft.

They want to do something useful, instead of 4K recording on a smartphone, when one is trying to record video vertically (and it isn't a rocket launch), the screen should flash the words "HOLD IT HORIZONTALLY, MORON!"
 
I read somewhere that somebody was working on a phone that would default to recording in "landscape" regardless of the position of the phone. I'm too busy to look it up but I swear it's a true story.
 
I want to say that my current tv's are good enough but I have said that about my current everything more then once, lol.

BUT, the two sets I sat and watched at my local store just didn't do anything for me. But that may be because my sets at home are properly calibrated and I'm sure the 4k sets at the store are on torch mode.
 
Flint said:
CES 2014 report on 4K TV, also known as UltraHD.

It is official, "4K" is the new "HD."

There wasn't a single TV manufacturer not showing multiple variations of 4K, including Curved Glass, LED, IPS, OLED, and Projectors. In fact, in most booths nearly all of the TVs were 4K models. I am pretty confident in predicting that by 2015 most of the TVs for sale in the retail stores will be 4K models.

They all looked amazing, but the OLED models from Haier, Samsung, and LG were the best. As you would expect, Panasonic and Sony had the most accurate and gorgeous 4K TVs, but they are not as sexy as the trendier brands.

So, the question is not whether you are going to buy a 4K TV. The question is when?
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I've been doing a little research today and everything I've read says the OLED models are 1080P, not 4K. If that's the case, are you saying the OLED models still looked better than the 4K televisions?


EDIT: I just found links stating that Sony and Panasonic both had 4K OLED prototypes at CES 2013 but no mention of anything this year.
 
LG, Samsung, and Sony were all showing 4K OLED television prototypes. Those were the ones I was most impressed with.
 
Flint said:
LG, Samsung, and Sony were all showing 4K OLED television prototypes. Those were the ones I was most impressed with.
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Cool, thanks. A little more digging and I found mention of those three. Any thoughts on the curved screens? Are they just doing it to be different or was there a real benefit?
 
CMonster said:
Flint said:
LG, Samsung, and Sony were all showing 4K OLED television prototypes. Those were the ones I was most impressed with.
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Cool, thanks. A little more digging and I found mention of those three. Any thoughts on the curved screens? Are they just doing it to be different or was there a real benefit?
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The idea behind the curved screen is supported by science, it offers a more accurate and easier to see from edge to edge. The aspect ratio is more real.

However, to be perfect the distance from your eyes to edges and center needs to be the same across the screen. A fixed curvature doesn't allow for that perfection except in one instance.
 
I know my next TV will be a 4K model, but I think I can get by with what I have until it fails. I don't have upgraditis much any more.
 
There's a good chance I'll be picking up a 4K television tonight. We delivered the old SXRD set to my brother last weekend so that needs to be replaced. I'm leaning towards the Sony XBR-65X850A. With the new B models about to come out there's been a significant price reduction with the A models.
 
Flint said:
I know my next TV will be a 4K model, but I think I can get by with what I have until it fails. I don't have upgraditis much any more.
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Yeah, owning a KURO has a tendency to stifle upgraditus when it comes to visual pleasure.

Rope
 
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