CMonster said:
Ding ding ding, I think we have a winner.
CMonster could be first!
4K TV is real... who's getting one first?
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Ding ding ding, I think we have a winner.
CMonster could be first!
CMonster
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It's looking more and more like I'm not going to make the jump to 4K with the Samsung F8500 plasma now being the front runner. It seems like all the LED/LCD televisions, including 4K, still have issues with motion, off-axis viewing, clouding, and flash-lighting. There's still little 4K content available, most of the 2013 4K models don't fully implement HDMI 2.0 and/or the latest codecs, and the 2014 models are just coming out so the prices won't be coming down any time soon.
CMonster
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^A JTR Captivator S1 was supposed to arrive at the beginning of the month. :angry-tappingfoot: The driver is causing the delay and I'm anxiously awaiting an update. So the HT has been without a sub for almost two months and the living room has been without a television for a couple of weeks. I've contemplated hauling the SVS downstairs but that thing is a beast and the thought of the return journey up the stairs has dissuaded me from doing so.
Things are moving forward for 4K TV. Now they are branding it "Ultra HD" and writing rules for how the term can be used:
http://www.engadget.com/2014/06/28/what ... lly-means/
A little 4K story:
I was at a broadcast trade show in Singapore wandering the floor with a co-worker from The Netherlands who is about my age. He saw all the signage about 4K and Ultra-HD TV and kept repeating that he would never need that and there was no reason for him to upgrade. I got tired of his constant doubt and took him to a Panasonic 4K demo where they were showing a Futbal match filmed in 4K and being shown on a 110" Ultra-HD display. His attitude immediately changed. He could walk up to the screen and look at it from 1 meter distance and not see any pixels or jagged edges. Also, since the video was show with a very small aperture, he couldn't help but notice that not only were the players and field in perfect focus, but he could make out individual people in the crowd and see their expressions. This got him very excited and he turned to me and said, "If I can watch sport like this, I will buy a new Ultra-HD TV."
Of course, in order for him to watch sports like that he needs to have access to a Ultra-HD content provider. But I am willing to bet that will happen in the next year, or so, and my Dutch friend will buy a new TV.
http://www.engadget.com/2014/06/28/what ... lly-means/
A little 4K story:
I was at a broadcast trade show in Singapore wandering the floor with a co-worker from The Netherlands who is about my age. He saw all the signage about 4K and Ultra-HD TV and kept repeating that he would never need that and there was no reason for him to upgrade. I got tired of his constant doubt and took him to a Panasonic 4K demo where they were showing a Futbal match filmed in 4K and being shown on a 110" Ultra-HD display. His attitude immediately changed. He could walk up to the screen and look at it from 1 meter distance and not see any pixels or jagged edges. Also, since the video was show with a very small aperture, he couldn't help but notice that not only were the players and field in perfect focus, but he could make out individual people in the crowd and see their expressions. This got him very excited and he turned to me and said, "If I can watch sport like this, I will buy a new Ultra-HD TV."
Of course, in order for him to watch sports like that he needs to have access to a Ultra-HD content provider. But I am willing to bet that will happen in the next year, or so, and my Dutch friend will buy a new TV.
Deacon
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Looks like content is already starting to move in the 4k direction...
http://www.cnet.com/news/imax-pushes-3d ... al-camera/
http://www.cnet.com/news/imax-pushes-3d ... al-camera/
Now Amazon is announcing plans to start streaming in 4K resolutions this fall.
http://www.engadget.com/2014/08/28/amaz ... lp00000602
Has anyone purchased a 4K TV to watch these sources?
http://www.engadget.com/2014/08/28/amaz ... lp00000602
Has anyone purchased a 4K TV to watch these sources?
Panasonic sends me emails ALL THE TIME. They frequently have their 58" model (58AX800U) for sale with free shipping for $1999. Tempting if there were more content. They have a pretty good deal on their 65" model too but I never focus on it because our family room cabinet won't accommodate it anyway.
My company and I am hard at work with partners developing technologies that go into the telecom network (Internet) make 4K a viable and supported standard for everyone. By applying advanced transcoding, compression algorithms, cahcing, content delivery networks, and fine tuning the networks on the fly for real world traffic, we are going to make the impact on the capacity of the network as minimal as possible as more and more 4K content is brought online.
In other words, the industry is building out to support this for all of you.
In other words, the industry is building out to support this for all of you.
AndySTL said:
At Best Buy I could clearly see the superiority of 4K when I got about 12" from the screen.
I could clearly see the superiority of OLED from halfway across the store.
If the OLED I end up getting also has 4K, that's fine, but its not a major selling point for me.
bmwuk
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I just purchased a new television, a Samusung 65" LED UN65H7150. It is NOT a 4K television, just a 1080p. My wife offered that as my Christmas gift and it was really a quick turnaround and didn't have much time to do due diligence. Several factors for the purchase.
1. The Panasonic 50" plasma we had was from 2006. The quality was definitely lacking, my 42" from 2008 I had sold several years ago was superior in picture but we opted on size when we kept one TV. So I knew any new television was a good choice
2. I couldn't justify the purchase of a 4k television since the formats were few and far between. I opted to stay with a native resolution television with concerns of upconversion of all my content.
3. I sit 10 to 12 feet from the television. All things I read indicated the difference wasn't as noticeable from a distance.
4. My wife said once we have a home and my man cave in a couple of years, I'm welcome to upgrade and she'll use this one in the family room or elsewhere.
At the end of it, I will let the media catch up before going 4k.
1. The Panasonic 50" plasma we had was from 2006. The quality was definitely lacking, my 42" from 2008 I had sold several years ago was superior in picture but we opted on size when we kept one TV. So I knew any new television was a good choice
2. I couldn't justify the purchase of a 4k television since the formats were few and far between. I opted to stay with a native resolution television with concerns of upconversion of all my content.
3. I sit 10 to 12 feet from the television. All things I read indicated the difference wasn't as noticeable from a distance.
4. My wife said once we have a home and my man cave in a couple of years, I'm welcome to upgrade and she'll use this one in the family room or elsewhere.
At the end of it, I will let the media catch up before going 4k.
Well, we bought a 4K TV tonight.
I was thinking about replacing our old LG plasma (720p) in the great room- we use it a lot more than we thought we would, so I wanted something bigger (50" or so). I wasn't thinking 4K, but the receiver (Yamaha RX-V375) has 4K pass through capability, so no equipment changes would be needed. As we looked, we realized the 4K did look better than the $500 1080p sets, so we leaned that direction. We found a Vizio 50" 4K set (the P series that seemed to do well at CES) at Walmart for $900, and with our 10% discount (wife works for them), it was reasonably price competitive. So we bought it.
I've got it installed, and it looks great. I calibrated it using the THX iOS app (a nice and easy way to do it... no, it's not a top level certified installer calibration, but it's good enough). The remote even has a QWERTY keyboard on the back... that's so useful I'm thinking it ought to be a mandatory feature on all remotes from here on out.
So, look at me- naysayer, and I was one of the first (if not the first) on here to take the jump. I'll eat all that crow in front of the TV, thanks.
Now I am wondering how long until DirecTV rolls out 4K capability to TVs that don't have a DirecTV RVU built in.
I did see Netflix and Amazon have some 4K content. I've upped my Netflix plan to include it; I now have to figure out how to program my Logitech Harmony for Amazon too (it's not as easy at Netflix).
I was thinking about replacing our old LG plasma (720p) in the great room- we use it a lot more than we thought we would, so I wanted something bigger (50" or so). I wasn't thinking 4K, but the receiver (Yamaha RX-V375) has 4K pass through capability, so no equipment changes would be needed. As we looked, we realized the 4K did look better than the $500 1080p sets, so we leaned that direction. We found a Vizio 50" 4K set (the P series that seemed to do well at CES) at Walmart for $900, and with our 10% discount (wife works for them), it was reasonably price competitive. So we bought it.
I've got it installed, and it looks great. I calibrated it using the THX iOS app (a nice and easy way to do it... no, it's not a top level certified installer calibration, but it's good enough). The remote even has a QWERTY keyboard on the back... that's so useful I'm thinking it ought to be a mandatory feature on all remotes from here on out.
So, look at me- naysayer, and I was one of the first (if not the first) on here to take the jump. I'll eat all that crow in front of the TV, thanks.
Now I am wondering how long until DirecTV rolls out 4K capability to TVs that don't have a DirecTV RVU built in.
I did see Netflix and Amazon have some 4K content. I've upped my Netflix plan to include it; I now have to figure out how to program my Logitech Harmony for Amazon too (it's not as easy at Netflix).