MakeMineVinyl
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Not to mention that anytime you apply EQ, phase changes are introduced which can screw up imaging among other things.
Audiophile type speakers: what is their sound?
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Not to mention that anytime you apply EQ, phase changes are introduced which can screw up imaging among other things.
I believe it also reduced pops from Ps and Bs but, yeah, few people like saliva splatter on their $15,000 mics.
They call those physical meshes in front of mics pop filters to reduce the impact of hard consonants like P, T, J, B, and others - every singer is different.
The infamous Yamaha NS10 small studio monitor became a legend when engineers realized just about anything they mixed on them tended to sound really good in real life on normal car and hifi speakers. They were far from accurate, but if the engineer did whatever was needed to make music sound good on them, the results were great. Lots of pop rock music from late 80s and early 90s got the general sound from mixing on those speakers. They have a harsh treble, so it was common for engineers to tape facial tissue or toilet paper over the front of the tweeter which mellowed the tone just enough.
The infamous Yamaha NS10 small studio monitor became a legend when engineers realized just about anything they mixed on them tended to sound really good in real life on normal car and hifi speakers. They were far from accurate, but if the engineer did whatever was needed to make music sound good on them, the results were great. Lots of pop rock music from late 80s and early 90s got the general sound from mixing on those speakers. They have a harsh treble, so it was common for engineers to tape facial tissue or toilet paper over the front of the tweeter which mellowed the tone just enough.
TitaniumTroy
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Heywood, how about these http://www.jblpro.com/www/products/recording-broadcast/7-series/708p#.WdLZCdOGPUI They have M2 waveguide/horn technology.
I cannot comment on these until I hear them. JBL has a history of fucking up great patents.
MakeMineVinyl
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Those speakers look a bit plastic-y for the price.
The more I read their literature on those 8" monitors, the more I think they were expressly intended for surround sound duties when the M2 is used as the front soundstage.
TitaniumTroy
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Plenty of plastic in my JBL LSR308's which are my surrounds, for the 4367's. They do have a similar soundstage, bass ummm not so much. But they are only $400 for the pair.
TitaniumTroy
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From a speaker shootout at the AVS Forum, this past August. The Revel's won, I have never heard the M2's but I prefer the 4367 to the Revels and I did hear them side by side.
4367 has better imaging and better dynamics, IMHO.
4367 has better imaging and better dynamics, IMHO.
TitaniumTroy
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And:
"From the six participants who did check boxes to indicate preference:
Bird on a Wire - Jennifer Warnes: M2 three checks out of six, Salon2 three (50/50 split)
Battlestar Galactica - Stu Phillips: M2 two checks out of six, Salon2 four
World in My Eyes - Depeche Mode: M2 one check out of six, Salon2 five
The Enterprise - Jerry Goldsmith: M2 two checks out of six, Salon2 four
Rimsky-Korsakov: Scheherazade: M2 three checks out of six, Salon2 three (50/50 split)
Parade of the Wooden Soldiers - Dallas Wind Symphony: M2 - three checks out of six, four checks out of six (one participant checked both; a tie)
Vocalise - Rachmaninoff (Mischa Maisky) Cello, Piano: M2 two checks out of six, Salon2 four
Someone Like You - Adele: M2 five checks out of six, Salon2 one
Spanish Harlem - Rebecca Pidgeon: M2 three checks out of six, Salon2 three (50/50 split)
Take Five - Dave Brubeck: M2 three checks out of six, Salon2 three (50/50 split)
Thriller - Michael Jackson: M2 two checks out of six, Salon2 four
I Will Remember - Toto: M2 three checks out of six, Salon2 three (50/50 split)
Fat Cry - Yello: M2 three checks out of six, Salon2 three (50/50 split)
TOTAL CHECKS FOR THE M2: 35
TOTAL CHECKS FOR THE SALON2: 44"
"From the six participants who did check boxes to indicate preference:
Bird on a Wire - Jennifer Warnes: M2 three checks out of six, Salon2 three (50/50 split)
Battlestar Galactica - Stu Phillips: M2 two checks out of six, Salon2 four
World in My Eyes - Depeche Mode: M2 one check out of six, Salon2 five
The Enterprise - Jerry Goldsmith: M2 two checks out of six, Salon2 four
Rimsky-Korsakov: Scheherazade: M2 three checks out of six, Salon2 three (50/50 split)
Parade of the Wooden Soldiers - Dallas Wind Symphony: M2 - three checks out of six, four checks out of six (one participant checked both; a tie)
Vocalise - Rachmaninoff (Mischa Maisky) Cello, Piano: M2 two checks out of six, Salon2 four
Someone Like You - Adele: M2 five checks out of six, Salon2 one
Spanish Harlem - Rebecca Pidgeon: M2 three checks out of six, Salon2 three (50/50 split)
Take Five - Dave Brubeck: M2 three checks out of six, Salon2 three (50/50 split)
Thriller - Michael Jackson: M2 two checks out of six, Salon2 four
I Will Remember - Toto: M2 three checks out of six, Salon2 three (50/50 split)
Fat Cry - Yello: M2 three checks out of six, Salon2 three (50/50 split)
TOTAL CHECKS FOR THE M2: 35
TOTAL CHECKS FOR THE SALON2: 44"