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How to update firmware on an 885?

Discussion in 'Amplifiers & Receivers' started by PaulyT, Dec 10, 2010.

  1. PaulyT

    PaulyT Behind the Curtain Staff Member Administrator Moderator Superstar

    Anyone know how to update firmware on the Onkyo PR-SC885? I'm looking around on google and onkyo(pro).com, but there's no info to be found on just how this is accomplished... USB? (edit: nevermind, it doesn't have a USB port) Ethernet? Is there a file to download somewhere?

    I'm interested because in another thread, Huey mentioned there might be a firmware update to allow HDMI devices to play audio only (CD, SACD) without the TV being on, which apparently I can't do at all right now - unless the TV HDMI cable is disconnected completely.
  2. Orbison

    Orbison Well-Known Member

    Forgive me if this is a dumb question, but can you not connect the media player with a digital or analog cable (in addition to HDMI) and then just use the Audio Select function to select which input to use to listen to that component when playing cd's? i.e. use HDMI for DVD's & analog/stereo for CD's

    This works fine on my TX-SR876........
  3. PaulyT

    PaulyT Behind the Curtain Staff Member Administrator Moderator Superstar

    Yeah, I could, if 1) I trusted the (cheap) player's DACs, and 2) I had enough analog outs for surround channels from SACD. I don't know if optical/spdif has sufficient bandwidth for full surround SACD... and I'm almost certain you can't stream DSD that way.

    Anyway, using analog connectors just seems too old-fashioned. ;) Well ok if I had a high quality analog system like SH's, sure, but with a digital preamp it seems kinda bass-ackwards to go from digital (CD) to analog (RCA) and then back to digital again (preamp). I want just one D/A conversion at the end of the chain, before the main amp.
  4. Flint

    Flint "Do you know who I am?" Superstar

    It is always best to keep it digital if the source is digital and the preamp is going to process everything digitally anyway for bass management, delays, and eq. HDMI allows for ultra resolution BDs and SACDs to be played in their native formats. So, I too use HDMI.

    I solved the problem of needing the TV to be on by using a small PC monitor on the second HDMI output which is placed at the rear of the room with the preamp. I then wrote a macro on my Pronto remote so that when I press the "music disc" button I created it will set everything up, including switching the HDMI output from the main to the alternate.

    Works like a champ everytime.
  5. Flint

    Flint "Do you know who I am?" Superstar

    By the way, I don't need to control the power on the PC monitor because when the main HDMI out is selected on the preamp no signal goes to the monitor and it automatically goes into sleep mode, which on my monitor consumes less than 0.2 watts.

    I love this solution because I still have the onscreen displat controls without having to turn my TV on and off when tweaking the sound.
  6. Rope

    Rope Well-Known Member Famous

    Which firmware version are you currently using?

    I have the zipped firmware files that can be emailed, also you'll need a RS232 cable and laptop to perform the upgrade.

  7. PaulyT

    PaulyT Behind the Curtain Staff Member Administrator Moderator Superstar

    Thanks, Rope! Ok apparently I'm at 1.07 now - is that the latest for the 885? Seems so from that AVS thread... So maybe there's nothing more I can do right now.
  8. Rope

    Rope Well-Known Member Famous

    I believe there's 1.08, but I'll have to double check that. Even if v1.08 does exists and you're looking for an out with your display being off while listening to SACD, it will not accomplish that. That's been one of my pet pevvs with Onkyo SC-885, however, I did manage to find a work around with my display in the power settings menu.

    I'll check my files and Onkyo, verify which version I have updated to.

  9. Rope

    Rope Well-Known Member Famous

    Latest Firmware v1.08

    Main: 87 1.08/08414A
    DSP 1st: SR8051 08214A
    DSP 2nd: SR8052 07518A
    DSP 3rd: SR8053 07820B

    HDMI: 1.01/07706A
    Video: 07606EI0924
    Net: 1.00

    Other great resources are Tee-man and Bats. They'll both have the inside track on the SC-885/DTC 9.8.

  10. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member Staff Member Moderator Famous

    ^ Tee was the last one to do a FW update on that unit Pauly, he performed that update at the Atlanta gtg a couple years ago...have you referenced the 885 thread at S&V?
  11. PaulyT

    PaulyT Behind the Curtain Staff Member Administrator Moderator Superstar

    Thanks, gents! Right - I should read the S&V thread, I forgot about that. Do either of you have a list of fixes/changes from 1.07 to 1.08? If it's not gonna affect the HDMI audio + TV off issue, then I probably won't bother.
  12. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member Staff Member Moderator Famous

    ^ Pauly, I'm sorry I do not. I rarely keeps tabs on FW updates unless I'm experiencing issues with a component or come across info on an update by chance...If you want to contact Tee, PM me and I'll get you his contact info, he's pretty much the authority on that pre/pro...
  13. Rope

    Rope Well-Known Member Famous

    Thanks for making me think this entire issue through.

    If you enter the Onkyo setup menu, select 7) Hardware Setup, 5)
    A. HDMI Audio OFF
    B. Lip Sync Enable
    C. xvYCC Enable
    D. Control Disable

    I'm not familiar with your BD player's setup menu, although in the Oppo 83's menu there's a Device Setup Menu, which contains an option; HDMI CEC On/Off. I've set mine to OFF, and now I can play a CD or SACD without the display being powered up.

    Razz -

    If you're following this thread, the settings descibed above will eliminate the CEC004 error you see on your KURO at power up.

  14. PaulyT

    PaulyT Behind the Curtain Staff Member Administrator Moderator Superstar

    Thanks Rope, but no change for me with those settings. I'm pretty sure that's how it was when I started all this, but I had B+C off just now...

    What exactly does the "lip sync" feature do, anyway?
  15. DIYer

    DIYer Well-Known Member Famous

    It syncs video and audio for dialog so that the lip movement on the screen matches dialog coming out of speaker. You have to set the delay time (ms) to adjust if the screen does not have auto sync that's compatible with the processor. Unlike older screens, the current crop of digital screens require slightly longer time to process and display the signal thus the need for sync feature.
  16. dralvin

    dralvin New Member

    The only substantial 1.08 firmware "fix" that I noted when I upgraded was the elimination of the so-called "DTS Bomb" which you can Google to obtain a full explanation of that problem.
  17. PaulyT

    PaulyT Behind the Curtain Staff Member Administrator Moderator Superstar

    Thanks, dralvin. And welcome to the forum!


    Does anyone have a list of exactly what the differences are between 1.07 and 1.08, if it's more than the dts thing? I have not yet done the update.
  18. MatthewB

    MatthewB Grandmaster Pimp Daddy Famous

    Pauly when I updated from my 1.06 to my 1.08 on my Onkyo 805, pretty much the only thing was the DTS bomb fix and it also minimized that loud clicking noise out of my rear channels when the sound source changed. Like when watching network TV and the show would go from Dolby Digital to stereo. It would take a second or two for the signal to jive back up and the rear channels would make this loud click noise. Once I got the firmware update I didnt get that anymore (but you can hear it slightly on the reciever itself)
  19. yromj

    yromj Well-Known Member

    Pauly, this is strictly from memory, but here goes. The reason Tee updated that unit was to get rid of the DTS bomb issue. I don't know what the differences are between 1.07 & 1.08, though.

  20. Yesfan70

    Yesfan70 I'm famous now bitches! vvvvv Famous

    If you have an unused HDMI port on the 885, can you just assign it to the CD input? I don't have a HDMI equipped receiver, but I'm assuming they are assignable like digital audio and component video inputs are.

    That's what my first thought would be in your situation. If that doesn't work, then just get 3 pairs of audio cables for 5.1 SACD and use the multi-input on the 885.

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