Paradigm CC V2 vs CC 450
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heeman said:
They are going to say that because they developed and marketed that speaker as a center channel speaker. They would be hard pressed to admit that they were not building the best speaker or design for any given application. They also don't want folks goin around tellin people that center channel speaker with a horizintal driver array are a big ole compromise and that so many of them are only sold because they fit nicely on top of a display. This harkens back to the old RPTV big screens and with all the flat panels out this really isn't even true any more. It is however what most consumers expect a center channel speaker to look like. Although they do fit nicely on a lot of stands for flat screens.
Now we can't have the inmates goin around runnin the asylum now can we?? Listen to them if you want and be happy with what you have or get, but just remember several of the members of this forum told you before you even knew that you had version 1 Studio 60's. Now who's lookin out for ya?? :happy-smileygiantred:
BTW, I have a Studio Center because I bought my front 3 speakers as a package used. If I had it all to do over again I would probably have a center with a vertical driver array. Like another Studio 20 or perhaps another Studio 40. This would be on a floor stand in front of my front projector and screen setup.
Randy, I have read on other forums the "downfalls of horizontal arrays for center channel speakers".
Others here have told me to just use a Studio 20 as the center and I will be just fine, actually better than a CC V2 OR CC 450.
If I was to us a single Studio 20 and if I laid it down insteed of stood it up, would I be sacrificing much??
Others here have told me to just use a Studio 20 as the center and I will be just fine, actually better than a CC V2 OR CC 450.
If I was to us a single Studio 20 and if I laid it down insteed of stood it up, would I be sacrificing much??
That would kinda defeat the purpose of using a Studio 20. Speakers with a vertical driver array tend to have better horizontal dispersion. Speakers with a horizontal driver array have better vertical dispersion which causes lobing in the midrange and other problems.
See, and these guys all thought I never paid attention to all the smart guy talk.
See, and these guys all thought I never paid attention to all the smart guy talk.
I was under the impression that horizontal drivers were more of a problem with an MTM design - which is more directional in the plane of the drivers (and is what most CC's tend to be for some reason), and hence off-axis response left/right is degraded when the drivers are horizontal. If it's a 2-driver speaker like a Studio 20, I don't think the orientation would matter quite as much.
Flint or someone, please correct me if I'm wrong...
Anyway, if you're always sitting spot-on in the middle of the center sweet spot, then it's moot, you can put the speakers however you want. This whole CC issue has more to do with off-axis listening when you've got multiple seats with some not centered.
Flint or someone, please correct me if I'm wrong...
Anyway, if you're always sitting spot-on in the middle of the center sweet spot, then it's moot, you can put the speakers however you want. This whole CC issue has more to do with off-axis listening when you've got multiple seats with some not centered.
PaulyT said:
Pauly, you are right, regarding the MTM design being a bit worse. But placing aStudio 20 on it's side is still less than optimal.
I however always sit right in the middle and don't really care what the rest of the family hears, but I am kinda selfish like that. And, they dont know the difference anyway.
Randy, if I liked you before, I like you a lot more now! :happy-smileygiantred:Randy said:
As for the topic, I think you're both right. It is indeed the midrange lobing with off-axis listening (the more off axis the listening, the more extreme the lobing issues) that plagues traditional horizontally configured center channel speakers. And I believe you'll likely experience the same issues with a speaker like the Studio 20 on its side. But I also think you've got to be really off axis to notice it. Still, that didn't stop me from trying to prevent it anyway even though I can't sit very far off axis.
No Problem.........I just need to sort this out!!!
As usual, I am being accuse from my better half, of "make this more of a big deal than it needs to be" She says "Do you think WE will really notice the difference if you buy the CC or the Studio 20 for the center?"
Help me out here guys (I have to admit it, but she is probably right, I do this will all major purchases and projects), but they usually turn out just right! :music-rockout:
As usual, I am being accuse from my better half, of "make this more of a big deal than it needs to be" She says "Do you think WE will really notice the difference if you buy the CC or the Studio 20 for the center?"
Help me out here guys (I have to admit it, but she is probably right, I do this will all major purchases and projects), but they usually turn out just right! :music-rockout: