Sony BDP-S570
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Doghart
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I replaced my PS3 a looonnng time ago with a Sony BDP-S550.
My only disappointment is the difference in load times, other than that the ultra quiet S550 is perfect for me.
Very similar menu system to the PS3.
Although the PS3 was connected with toslink, I am using the analog audio outputs to my Denon and it has performed excellently.
Can't wait to hear your impressions.
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My only disappointment is the difference in load times, other than that the ultra quiet S550 is perfect for me.
Very similar menu system to the PS3.
Although the PS3 was connected with toslink, I am using the analog audio outputs to my Denon and it has performed excellently.
Can't wait to hear your impressions.
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DIYer said:
Yeah, I know, we'll see how quiet or loud it is in practice. I didn't see any complaints about noise in the lengthy thread about the 570 on AVS. Amazon has a 30-day return policy, so I'll definitely be testing out all the features I'm interested in before keeping it forever.
Doghart said:
Dog, you mean the 550 is slower? I've seen numerous places (including a youtube video) showing that the 570 is substantially faster at load time than the PS3 (and faster than almost any other player, apparently). I can certainly test this, too, though it's not a huge priority for me.
Well my first impressions are not positive. Several problems/issues, compared to using the PS3.
- Netflix won't do DD5.1. I can get DD5.1 e.g. from Monk Season 8 on Netflix on my PS3. But not on the 570, it's only stereo.
- No subtitles/closed captions from Hulu+ or Netflix; I can get CC from both on the PS3.
- The most annoying thing, to me, is that I can't play SACD without turning on the TV! It appears, from what I can tell on my processor (Onkyo 885) that it won't sync up the HDMI connection unless the TV is on. Argh, this is one of the reasons I got a standalone player, to listen to music with a quieter component than my noisy old-model PS3.
I mean, it seems to work fine for playing movies and such, and it's nice to have a player that will stream TrueHD and even DSD (from SACD). But it's sort of failing on some of the major reasons I bought it for... so unless I can figure out a way around these, it may be going back.
- Netflix won't do DD5.1. I can get DD5.1 e.g. from Monk Season 8 on Netflix on my PS3. But not on the 570, it's only stereo.
- No subtitles/closed captions from Hulu+ or Netflix; I can get CC from both on the PS3.
- The most annoying thing, to me, is that I can't play SACD without turning on the TV! It appears, from what I can tell on my processor (Onkyo 885) that it won't sync up the HDMI connection unless the TV is on. Argh, this is one of the reasons I got a standalone player, to listen to music with a quieter component than my noisy old-model PS3.
I mean, it seems to work fine for playing movies and such, and it's nice to have a player that will stream TrueHD and even DSD (from SACD). But it's sort of failing on some of the major reasons I bought it for... so unless I can figure out a way around these, it may be going back.
yromj
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PaulyT said:
That sucks a big green fattie.
The one thing I'm curious about is will any stand-alone player do those things. I had heard a while back that Netflicks was only doing 5.1 on the PS3 (don't know about other consoles) and not players. I was hoping that had changed.
I don't know about the subtitles thing being console-only. I tried this the other night on the 370 and it didn't work on it. I didn't know if Netflix even offered it then, though, so I just shrugged and moved on.
As for the HDMI issue, that's where HDCP really gets annoying. Some part of the logic in the scheme apparently checks that a display is at the end of the chain. The question there is whether or not the player is the guilty party or the pre/pro. (A small HDMI capable computer monitor connected to the other HDMI out on the pre/pro would be an easy solution if it is the pre/pro.)
If Batman can test these same things with the Oppo, we can tell a lot. Also, Razz can test these w/ his LG.
John
Thanks, John. Still no luck getting SACD without TV, despite futzing around with settings etc. All hdmi control stuff is off in the 885. I'm pretty sure it's not just the 885, because I could use my older hdmi dvd/cd player (actually also a Sony) to play music without the TV, so seems it's something to do with the hdmi handshake on the player. I've tried changing the order of power-up, etc., no change.
Guess it's kinda silly to obsess over this, considering my collection of SACD is like 10 discs, but still, it's turning into kind of a pet peeve/OCD issue now.
So, I've ordered a BDP-S770 to compare with the 570, which will be an interesting experiment anyway. I'll send one or both back... free shipping on both, so I'm only out some return shipping if neither works for this, as I wouldn't be able to justify keeping either one of them. Then maybe I'll hold out for a used Oppo 80 (ideally) or something once the 93 starts shipping for real. Sigh.
Anyway, I don't mean to imply that the 570 is a bad BD player, as I've only spent about 5 minutes with it playing actual BD video content... enough to see (for the first time!) the TrueHD light come on on my 885. And it does seem to be quiet, I haven't heard any fan noise at all so far. Sure there's the usual whirring as the disc loads or changes track, but during regular play it seems to be dead quiet.
Guess it's kinda silly to obsess over this, considering my collection of SACD is like 10 discs, but still, it's turning into kind of a pet peeve/OCD issue now.
So, I've ordered a BDP-S770 to compare with the 570, which will be an interesting experiment anyway. I'll send one or both back... free shipping on both, so I'm only out some return shipping if neither works for this, as I wouldn't be able to justify keeping either one of them. Then maybe I'll hold out for a used Oppo 80 (ideally) or something once the 93 starts shipping for real. Sigh.Anyway, I don't mean to imply that the 570 is a bad BD player, as I've only spent about 5 minutes with it playing actual BD video content... enough to see (for the first time!
) the TrueHD light come on on my 885. And it does seem to be quiet, I haven't heard any fan noise at all so far. Sure there's the usual whirring as the disc loads or changes track, but during regular play it seems to be dead quiet.
Rob, is that CEC control a player setting? I'll look for it, but I thought I scanned through just about every single setting on the 570... My 885 does have some "hdmi control" features in the setup menu, but they're all off.