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Dennie said:
I second the Klipsch Heritage line, but then I saw these......

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They seem to be made for your budget!! :handgestures-thumbup:

Here is a link---> http://www.klipsch.com/na-en/products/p-17b-overview/


Dennie
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Are they finally releasing the Palladium line in the US? For a long time, I thought that model line was only available in Europe. A few years ago, I remember seeing the towers in a cool looking piano black gloss finish.

I wonder if they sound as good as they look. That finish is pretty sweet looking, but for a pair of bookshelfs costing $4000 I think I would be more tempted in a set of tried and true Cornwalls or LaScalas.
 
Rope
 

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Yesfan70 said:
Dennie said:
I second the Klipsch Heritage line, but then I saw these......

500x500.aspx


They seem to be made for your budget!! :handgestures-thumbup:

Here is a link---> http://www.klipsch.com/na-en/products/p-17b-overview/


Dennie
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Are they finally releasing the Palladium line in the US? For a long time, I thought that model line was only available in Europe. A few years ago, I remember seeing the towers in a cool looking piano black gloss finish.

I wonder if they sound as good as they look. That finish is pretty sweet looking, but for a pair of bookshelfs costing $4000 I think I would be more tempted in a set of tried and true Cornwalls or LaScalas.
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As far as I know they are available here. They list a dealer near me. I might just have to go for a listen, one of these days. Also, a guy on the Klipsch Forum has a HT built around the P-37F's and he is in Texas.

I think La Scalas and Cornwalls may be a little big for his room. But the Hersey III is just about perfect. He'd even have money left over for Tube Amps, if he so desired!! :eusa-clap:

They are $799 each with Free Shipping.....

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Overview
Now available for purchase direct from Klipsch.com (US residents only)! Klipsch Heritage Series products are built to order, handmade in the US at our Hope, Ark. manufacturing facility. Please allow approximately 4 weeks turnaround time.

* A three-way design using horn-loaded Titanium diaphragm midrange and high frequency compression drivers.
* Direct-radiating 12-inch woofer for powerful low frequencies.
* 99 dB sensitivity delivers Smooth, dynamic and low distortion sound
* Available in a high-quality Cherry, Walnut or Black Ash wood veneer finish

Because of its relatively "compact" size, this model offers the greatest degree of placement flexibility in the Heritage Series line. First introduced in 1957, the Heresy, a three-way design, started out as a compact center channel speaker to accompany the Klipschorn® in three-speaker stereo arrays. In 1985, we made some changes and improvements to this model and re-released it as the Heresy II. Today, the new Heresy III has a more powerful woofer, a bi-wire network, and a titanium diaphragm tweeter with a larger magnet assembly. The midrange compression driver also features a new titanium diaphragm.

All of these changes result in improved tonal balance and increased output. In fact the Heresy III is three decibels louder (96 to 99dB), improving on its already high sensitivity.

In addition to delivering smooth, dynamic and low distortion sound, the Heresy III is available in a high-quality cherry, walnut or black ash wood veneer finish. Included is a slant riser base for floor placement that can be removed for cabinet installations.

Please visit our store policy section for further details or ordering Heritage products.

To order wood samples, please email your request along with your address and phone number (US residents only).

Exotic wood veneers available by special request (additional charges apply). Email us for details: support@klipsch.com

....and a LINKY!
http://www.klipsch.com/na-en/products/h ... -overview/

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Dennie :mrgreen:
 
Not if they'd paint the tweeter red and the woofer green... :teasing-neener:
 
Hi guys,I just returned from my first auditioning foray. Today I
compared a pair of Revel Performa 32's vs. the Vandersteen 3A
Signatures. I spent about 90 min. auditioning both with several cd's I
brought and Dave Brubeck's Time Out which happened to be in the listening room.

First impressions are:

The Vandersteens had a very laid back, almost muffled quality at
first, but the more I listened the more natural they began to sound.
They seem to be the kind of speaker that I might grow into more as I
listened to them long term with a greater variety of music.

The Revel's on the other hand had a very forward and sharper sound,
brighter,and more dynamic compared to the Vandersteens, as well.

As far as imaging, both speakers seemed to image very well.

Unfortunately the biggest variable is the huge difference between the
auditioning room which was not only easily more than twice the size of
my listing room, but also carpeted and at least somewhat treated acoustically.

Also the speakers were connected to multi-thousand dollar
electronics (BAT, Sim, Audio Research, some the components were tubed)
that I can in no way match. I know the differences in electronics pale
compared to the differences in the rooms, but I cant help but wonder
if, all things being equal acoustically, there would be meaningful
difference between those mega rigs and the most likely entry level
amp, and pre amp I will use.

Next I will try to audition Dynaudio, Focal, Genelec, and if I can Legacy.

All thoughts and opinions welcome.
 
You're off to a great start! Keep up the good work.
:handgestures-thumbup:
 
2chnfornow said:
Hi guys,I just returned from my first auditioning foray. Today I
compared a pair of Revel Performa 32's vs. the Vandersteen 3A
Signatures. I spent about 90 min. auditioning both with several cd's I
brought and Dave Brubeck's Time Out which happened to be in the listening room.

First impressions are:

The Vandersteens had a very laid back, almost muffled quality at
first, but the more I listened the more natural they began to sound.
They seem to be the kind of speaker that I might grow into more as I
listened to them long term with a greater variety of music.

The Revel's on the other hand had a very forward and sharper sound,
brighter,and more dynamic compared to the Vandersteens, as well.

As far as imaging, both speakers seemed to image very well.

Unfortunately the biggest variable is the huge difference between the
auditioning room which was not only easily more than twice the size of
my listing room, but also carpeted and at least somewhat treated acoustically.

Also the speakers were connected to multi-thousand dollar
electronics (BAT, Sim, Audio Research, some the components were tubed)
that I can in no way match. I know the differences in electronics pale
compared to the differences in the rooms, but I cant help but wonder
if, all things being equal acoustically, there would be meaningful
difference between those mega rigs and the most likely entry level
amp, and pre amp I will use.Next I will try to audition Dynaudio, Focal, Genelec, and if I can Legacy.

All thoughts and opinions welcome.
Click to expand...

If your entry level amp / preamp are a good quality duo, I doubt very highly that there would be a meaningful difference (between SS gear).


Take notes, if you haven't already, while your memory is still fresh. I found this to be a very good thing to do.
 
jamhead said:
2chnfornow said:
Hi guys,I just returned from my first auditioning foray. Today I
compared a pair of Revel Performa 32's vs. the Vandersteen 3A
Signatures. I spent about 90 min. auditioning both with several cd's I
brought and Dave Brubeck's Time Out which happened to be in the listening room.

First impressions are:

The Vandersteens had a very laid back, almost muffled quality at
first, but the more I listened the more natural they began to sound.
They seem to be the kind of speaker that I might grow into more as I
listened to them long term with a greater variety of music.

The Revel's on the other hand had a very forward and sharper sound,
brighter,and more dynamic compared to the Vandersteens, as well.

As far as imaging, both speakers seemed to image very well.

Unfortunately the biggest variable is the huge difference between the
auditioning room which was not only easily more than twice the size of
my listing room, but also carpeted and at least somewhat treated acoustically.

Also the speakers were connected to multi-thousand dollar
electronics (BAT, Sim, Audio Research, some the components were tubed)
that I can in no way match. I know the differences in electronics pale
compared to the differences in the rooms, but I cant help but wonder
if, all things being equal acoustically, there would be meaningful
difference between those mega rigs and the most likely entry level
amp, and pre amp I will use.Next I will try to audition Dynaudio, Focal, Genelec, and if I can Legacy.

All thoughts and opinions welcome.
Click to expand...

If your entry level amp / preamp are a good quality duo, I doubt very highly that there would be a meaningful difference (between SS gear).
Take notes, if you haven't already, while your memory is still fresh. I found this to be a very good thing to do.
Click to expand...

In addition to Jam's statement, the vast majority of audio enthusiasts cannot distinguish the difference between solid state electronics ABX, tubes, are another story.

Jammie brings to the table another great point, fidelity memory. Take notes, since most peoples "music memory" is very short.

Rope

BTW, the Revel's you auditioned may cause listening fatigue in long period listening, if they are in fact forward and harsh.

Rope
 
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